1 00:04:04,070 --> 00:01:25,030 thank you 2 00:04:13,980 --> 00:04:05,990 foreign 3 00:04:13,990 --> 00:04:30,170 [Music] 4 00:04:37,010 --> 00:04:33,290 game is rigged change the game game 5 00:04:40,670 --> 00:04:37,020 changer I occasionally think how quickly 6 00:04:43,969 --> 00:04:40,680 our differences worldwide would vanish 7 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:43,979 if we were facing an alien threat from 8 00:04:47,090 --> 00:04:45,610 outside this work 9 00:04:50,689 --> 00:04:47,100 [Music] 10 00:04:53,090 --> 00:04:51,770 Ed 11 00:04:54,110 --> 00:04:53,100 with your host 12 00:04:58,510 --> 00:04:54,120 the church 13 00:05:07,629 --> 00:05:02,350 I need your help to get to the ER 14 00:05:13,150 --> 00:05:10,310 you are listening to fade to black with 15 00:05:18,430 --> 00:05:13,160 Jimmy judge on The Game Changer Network 16 00:05:22,189 --> 00:05:18,440 [Music] 17 00:05:23,770 --> 00:05:22,199 well well well good evening Fade to 18 00:05:26,230 --> 00:05:23,780 Black 19 00:05:30,350 --> 00:05:26,240 bespoke radio 20 00:05:34,070 --> 00:05:30,360 4. the messes 21 00:05:38,090 --> 00:05:34,080 uh yeah man today's Monday November 7th 22 00:05:47,150 --> 00:05:42,570 it's a great day let's do this man 23 00:05:49,620 --> 00:05:47,160 [Music] 24 00:05:52,570 --> 00:05:49,630 [Applause] 25 00:05:54,350 --> 00:05:52,580 [Music] 26 00:05:57,110 --> 00:05:54,360 I would like to welcome everybody 27 00:05:59,749 --> 00:05:57,120 listing all around the world all across 28 00:06:01,790 --> 00:05:59,759 the United States hither and Tiller to 29 00:06:06,529 --> 00:06:01,800 and fro back and forth up and down east 30 00:06:09,529 --> 00:06:06,539 and west north and south far and near 31 00:06:10,790 --> 00:06:09,539 this is Fade to Black for kjcr the game 32 00:06:12,370 --> 00:06:10,800 changer Network I'm your host Jimmy 33 00:06:16,909 --> 00:06:12,380 Church 34 00:06:18,210 --> 00:06:16,919 what is cracking everybody how you doing 35 00:06:20,029 --> 00:06:18,220 all right 36 00:06:22,249 --> 00:06:20,039 [Applause] 37 00:06:25,909 --> 00:06:22,259 tonight very special guest Scott Walter 38 00:06:27,170 --> 00:06:25,919 is here another open conversation 39 00:06:32,510 --> 00:06:27,180 and 40 00:06:34,309 --> 00:06:32,520 the premiere today of into the Vortex 41 00:06:39,529 --> 00:06:34,319 so we're going to be talking about all 42 00:06:44,330 --> 00:06:42,110 I love it when he's on the show I just 43 00:06:48,469 --> 00:06:44,340 love it tomorrow night 44 00:06:51,590 --> 00:06:48,479 is our f2b AMA the Wednesday night is 45 00:06:55,129 --> 00:06:51,600 fader night because Thursday is Linda 46 00:06:57,830 --> 00:06:55,139 Moulton Howe all right all right 47 00:07:00,890 --> 00:06:57,840 now I just want to let everybody know uh 48 00:07:04,129 --> 00:07:00,900 Friday that was Thursday after the show 49 00:07:07,249 --> 00:07:04,139 a caught a cold came out of nowhere you 50 00:07:09,909 --> 00:07:07,259 can hear it right and uh so I fought it 51 00:07:13,969 --> 00:07:09,919 all weekend and uh 52 00:07:16,730 --> 00:07:13,979 uh I supplemented up and and and tried 53 00:07:19,249 --> 00:07:16,740 to get rest and everything else and 54 00:07:21,350 --> 00:07:19,259 um I already had I you know I knew that 55 00:07:22,330 --> 00:07:21,360 today was uh the premiere of into the 56 00:07:26,050 --> 00:07:22,340 Vortex 57 00:07:28,490 --> 00:07:26,060 and uh so there had to be a show today 58 00:07:30,550 --> 00:07:28,500 but I 59 00:07:34,550 --> 00:07:30,560 I just canceled everything 60 00:07:36,230 --> 00:07:34,560 uh for uh tomorrow and Wednesday Linda 61 00:07:39,890 --> 00:07:36,240 was uh already booked you know for a 62 00:07:43,730 --> 00:07:39,900 couple of weeks so I I I gotta that's 63 00:07:46,670 --> 00:07:43,740 gotta happen but uh I almost I don't 64 00:07:50,890 --> 00:07:46,680 know I don't know so I'm feeling better 65 00:07:54,110 --> 00:07:50,900 but I just I I can't breathe 66 00:07:58,129 --> 00:07:54,120 so my head is here but I just can't 67 00:08:00,350 --> 00:07:58,139 breathe and uh it was really bad I had a 68 00:08:01,969 --> 00:08:00,360 rough night sleeping uh last night all 69 00:08:03,710 --> 00:08:01,979 weekend 70 00:08:06,110 --> 00:08:03,720 um it was I was like man I'm just gonna 71 00:08:10,490 --> 00:08:06,120 take the week off I just need to stay in 72 00:08:14,210 --> 00:08:10,500 bed but I you know I it is what it is 73 00:08:16,790 --> 00:08:14,220 so tomorrow night uh we'll do an ama if 74 00:08:19,969 --> 00:08:16,800 I'm feeling good and and I think I will 75 00:08:23,290 --> 00:08:19,979 be I'm just gonna hit the hay tonight uh 76 00:08:27,529 --> 00:08:23,300 right after the show I'm out I'm out 77 00:08:30,770 --> 00:08:27,539 amount amount I I I was sneezing 78 00:08:32,990 --> 00:08:30,780 coughing all weekend it was just brutal 79 00:08:36,230 --> 00:08:33,000 just hit me like a ton of bricks I was 80 00:08:39,709 --> 00:08:36,240 talking to John Greenwald uh 81 00:08:41,209 --> 00:08:39,719 uh oh I think it was Saturday and he 82 00:08:43,790 --> 00:08:41,219 goes dude man my whole family got a cold 83 00:08:45,829 --> 00:08:43,800 I said I just got a cold because man 84 00:08:47,829 --> 00:08:45,839 it's just brutal I'm like don't tell me 85 00:08:51,590 --> 00:08:47,839 that I want this to be a three-day thing 86 00:08:53,210 --> 00:08:51,600 and uh and maybe that psyched me out uh 87 00:08:55,070 --> 00:08:53,220 for this weekend I was just like oh man 88 00:08:57,590 --> 00:08:55,080 this is gonna be rough it's going to be 89 00:08:59,870 --> 00:08:57,600 rough it's going to be rough uh but I 90 00:09:03,230 --> 00:08:59,880 started feeling better this afternoon so 91 00:09:05,750 --> 00:09:03,240 I was talking to uh Sid 92 00:09:08,210 --> 00:09:05,760 Sid Goldberg today over at Gaia you know 93 00:09:11,750 --> 00:09:08,220 the premiere of into the Vortex uh went 94 00:09:13,910 --> 00:09:11,760 down uh today and I was talking to him 95 00:09:16,610 --> 00:09:13,920 about the cold and I said man it was 96 00:09:18,889 --> 00:09:16,620 just I'm psyching myself I don't know 97 00:09:21,170 --> 00:09:18,899 I'm feeling better but you know how it 98 00:09:23,329 --> 00:09:21,180 is when he got a cold you go oh I'm 99 00:09:25,490 --> 00:09:23,339 feeling better I'm feeling better I'm 100 00:09:28,070 --> 00:09:25,500 feeling better and then and then all of 101 00:09:31,009 --> 00:09:28,080 a sudden you're not so let's see what 102 00:09:32,870 --> 00:09:31,019 happens man listen to my voice 103 00:09:36,470 --> 00:09:32,880 I feel fine 104 00:09:40,610 --> 00:09:36,480 all right so uh the link for into the 105 00:09:42,829 --> 00:09:40,620 Vortex is below I popped it in over on 106 00:09:46,190 --> 00:09:42,839 uh into the chat room earlier in case 107 00:09:48,710 --> 00:09:46,200 anybody hasn't seen social media today 108 00:09:51,769 --> 00:09:48,720 um but uh the first episode is out 109 00:09:53,329 --> 00:09:51,779 and uh the link is below and you can 110 00:09:56,750 --> 00:09:53,339 click on that and then of course 111 00:09:59,930 --> 00:09:56,760 throughout social media uh everything 112 00:10:02,090 --> 00:09:59,940 went out uh earlier today so there you 113 00:10:05,990 --> 00:10:02,100 go uh into the Vortex 114 00:10:07,850 --> 00:10:06,000 season one and uh more on that in just a 115 00:10:11,329 --> 00:10:07,860 bit I will be hosting and I'm seeing the 116 00:10:13,670 --> 00:10:11,339 conscious life Expo this February 10th 117 00:10:16,070 --> 00:10:13,680 through the 13th at The Lax Hilton 118 00:10:18,490 --> 00:10:16,080 tickets and info tickets went on sale 119 00:10:20,389 --> 00:10:18,500 last week finally so 120 00:10:22,430 --> 00:10:20,399 consciouslifeexpo.com the links are 121 00:10:25,250 --> 00:10:22,440 below two weeks after that it'll be 122 00:10:28,190 --> 00:10:25,260 Saturday April 1st I'll be hosting the 123 00:10:32,030 --> 00:10:28,200 peripod festival at the Hyatt Regency in 124 00:10:35,449 --> 00:10:32,040 Valencia California it's a live one day 125 00:10:38,150 --> 00:10:35,459 podcast Awards Film Festival media event 126 00:10:39,949 --> 00:10:38,160 you can submit your podcast your media 127 00:10:43,810 --> 00:10:39,959 your TV series your documentary whatever 128 00:10:45,490 --> 00:10:43,820 you've got right now on the link below 129 00:10:49,069 --> 00:10:45,500 parapod 130 00:10:51,829 --> 00:10:49,079 filmfest.com then a week after that 131 00:10:54,230 --> 00:10:51,839 April 7th through the 14th 2023 I will 132 00:10:58,009 --> 00:10:54,240 be hosting and presenting on the hidden 133 00:10:59,569 --> 00:10:58,019 secrets seminar at Sea cruise with our 134 00:11:01,910 --> 00:10:59,579 guest tonight Scott Walter he's going to 135 00:11:05,210 --> 00:11:01,920 be there Adam Apollo is going to be 136 00:11:08,329 --> 00:11:05,220 there Nick Pope Brad Olson Vivian Chavez 137 00:11:10,250 --> 00:11:08,339 all right now the Links are below and uh 138 00:11:12,110 --> 00:11:10,260 come take a cruise with us 139 00:11:14,690 --> 00:11:12,120 all right all right follow me on Twitter 140 00:11:18,110 --> 00:11:14,700 at Jay Church radio man 141 00:11:19,790 --> 00:11:18,120 uh uh even though I was fighting a cold 142 00:11:21,889 --> 00:11:19,800 this weekend 143 00:11:24,490 --> 00:11:21,899 I was watching 144 00:11:26,269 --> 00:11:24,500 Twitter just 145 00:11:28,930 --> 00:11:26,279 implode 146 00:11:33,650 --> 00:11:28,940 oh my God 147 00:11:37,190 --> 00:11:33,660 right my oh geez not my personal feed 148 00:11:40,250 --> 00:11:37,200 Matt you know that's uh you know all 149 00:11:43,449 --> 00:11:40,260 that's fine it's everything else oh man 150 00:11:48,290 --> 00:11:45,610 ah 151 00:11:50,630 --> 00:11:48,300 how quickly something can come unraveled 152 00:11:53,389 --> 00:11:50,640 I'll just leave that right there the 153 00:11:57,170 --> 00:11:53,399 sandbox is hashtag f2b on Twitter I am 154 00:11:59,210 --> 00:11:57,180 so glad that I just use Twitter 155 00:12:01,069 --> 00:11:59,220 for uh 156 00:12:02,750 --> 00:12:01,079 the show 157 00:12:05,870 --> 00:12:02,760 I don't I don't get all wrapped up in 158 00:12:08,630 --> 00:12:05,880 that stuff man I I don't 159 00:12:10,009 --> 00:12:08,640 um I was talking to uh somebody last 160 00:12:13,670 --> 00:12:10,019 week 161 00:12:16,730 --> 00:12:13,680 and uh they called me so Jimmy man uh uh 162 00:12:18,470 --> 00:12:16,740 this this this and this I said man I 163 00:12:22,430 --> 00:12:18,480 spent like five minutes a day on social 164 00:12:25,850 --> 00:12:22,440 media yeah but but now no I'm not gonna 165 00:12:29,569 --> 00:12:25,860 go and re I no no I'll take your word 166 00:12:31,790 --> 00:12:29,579 for it but but there are no 167 00:12:33,949 --> 00:12:31,800 that's it 168 00:12:36,650 --> 00:12:33,959 and I was watching what was happening 169 00:12:39,050 --> 00:12:36,660 over the weekend wow 170 00:12:40,610 --> 00:12:39,060 that's why I'm just I'm go I see I I 171 00:12:44,810 --> 00:12:40,620 just don't get wrapped up in that stuff 172 00:12:47,269 --> 00:12:44,820 my feed is fine 173 00:12:51,170 --> 00:12:47,279 I don't click on that home page though 174 00:12:53,930 --> 00:12:51,180 at uh that Twitter feed woo 175 00:12:55,970 --> 00:12:53,940 oh my God what a mess what a mess 176 00:12:57,370 --> 00:12:55,980 hashtag f2b is the sandbox though right 177 00:13:00,470 --> 00:12:57,380 there on Twitter 178 00:13:03,290 --> 00:13:00,480 ah man all right Scott Walters our guest 179 00:13:06,949 --> 00:13:03,300 tonight it is the premiere of season one 180 00:13:10,790 --> 00:13:06,959 of into the Vortex and uh yeah it was 181 00:13:14,690 --> 00:13:10,800 kind of kind of a weird go for me 182 00:13:17,629 --> 00:13:14,700 um because I hadn't seen the show 183 00:13:18,889 --> 00:13:17,639 and I taped it you know and I don't like 184 00:13:21,590 --> 00:13:18,899 watching myself 185 00:13:23,449 --> 00:13:21,600 and so that that was that I thought man 186 00:13:27,550 --> 00:13:23,459 you know I'm getting some pretty good 187 00:13:31,790 --> 00:13:27,560 feedback but I hadn't seen it right so 188 00:13:35,329 --> 00:13:31,800 I went and watched uh 189 00:13:38,150 --> 00:13:35,339 uh the intro I want to watch the first 190 00:13:39,949 --> 00:13:38,160 yeah the first five minutes of the show 191 00:13:41,509 --> 00:13:39,959 today I mean I knew all the questions 192 00:13:43,730 --> 00:13:41,519 after that I just wanted to see the 193 00:13:46,610 --> 00:13:43,740 editing and how they did the the intro 194 00:13:50,449 --> 00:13:46,620 and hadn't seen that yet so that was 195 00:13:52,129 --> 00:13:50,459 pretty cool and uh yeah yeah I think 196 00:13:54,650 --> 00:13:52,139 it's gonna be great just as long as the 197 00:13:58,069 --> 00:13:54,660 editing is good I know the content the 198 00:14:02,090 --> 00:13:58,079 interviews uh and all of that is great 199 00:14:03,889 --> 00:14:02,100 um so it's up to post-production you 200 00:14:05,690 --> 00:14:03,899 know to make sure that you know you can 201 00:14:09,829 --> 00:14:05,700 deliver good content but if it's not 202 00:14:11,090 --> 00:14:09,839 edited great you can blow good content 203 00:14:15,410 --> 00:14:11,100 but 204 00:14:17,210 --> 00:14:15,420 I think it's okay so again the link is 205 00:14:18,850 --> 00:14:17,220 below all right let's get to the 206 00:14:21,670 --> 00:14:18,860 breaking news 207 00:14:24,170 --> 00:14:21,680 crazy news out of Egypt 208 00:14:27,290 --> 00:14:24,180 archaeologists in Egypt have discovered 209 00:14:31,069 --> 00:14:27,300 a vast tunnel beneath a temple at the 210 00:14:35,410 --> 00:14:31,079 ancient city of Tampa Cyrus Magna west 211 00:14:39,230 --> 00:14:35,420 of Alexandria the 212 00:14:40,870 --> 00:14:39,240 4281 foot long tunnel was discovered by 213 00:14:44,090 --> 00:14:40,880 Egyptian Dominican Republic 214 00:14:48,110 --> 00:14:44,100 archaeological team ancient Egyptian 215 00:14:52,210 --> 00:14:48,120 Builders constructed the 6.6 foot high 216 00:14:54,889 --> 00:14:52,220 tunnel at a depth of about 65 feet 217 00:14:58,370 --> 00:14:54,899 beneath the ground 218 00:15:01,790 --> 00:14:58,380 that is 40. it's almost a mile long 219 00:15:04,370 --> 00:15:01,800 the tunnel dates to 300 BC at a time 220 00:15:06,170 --> 00:15:04,380 when Egypt was ruled by a dynasty of 221 00:15:09,110 --> 00:15:06,180 Kings descended from 222 00:15:11,689 --> 00:15:09,120 Alexander the Great one of Alexander the 223 00:15:13,129 --> 00:15:11,699 Great's generals it's uh it's pretty 224 00:15:16,430 --> 00:15:13,139 cool the tunnel goes up and then it's 225 00:15:19,550 --> 00:15:16,440 got a gabled gabled ceiling and it's 226 00:15:21,110 --> 00:15:19,560 just massive massive they think it was 227 00:15:24,889 --> 00:15:21,120 for water 228 00:15:27,949 --> 00:15:24,899 yeah there you go all right check this 229 00:15:31,850 --> 00:15:27,959 out this went down yesterday a surprise 230 00:15:33,829 --> 00:15:31,860 solar flare has burst from an area of 231 00:15:37,370 --> 00:15:33,839 dense magnetism on the sun's surface 232 00:15:40,670 --> 00:15:37,380 causing a temporary radio blackout in 233 00:15:44,449 --> 00:15:40,680 parts of Australia and all of New 234 00:15:46,970 --> 00:15:44,459 Zealand the M5 class medium strength 235 00:15:50,210 --> 00:15:46,980 solar flare was recorded by NASA's Solar 236 00:15:56,329 --> 00:15:50,220 Dynamics Observatory as it erupted from 237 00:15:58,990 --> 00:15:56,339 the Sunspot AR 3141 at 7 11 p.m eastern 238 00:16:02,870 --> 00:15:59,000 time yesterday Sunday 239 00:16:03,829 --> 00:16:02,880 November 6th so one of the big fears 240 00:16:07,850 --> 00:16:03,839 that I have 241 00:16:10,850 --> 00:16:07,860 you know just just this 242 00:16:12,350 --> 00:16:10,860 just the crazy solar flare EMP we're 243 00:16:14,449 --> 00:16:12,360 just not ready for it 244 00:16:16,250 --> 00:16:14,459 we're we're not we're not we're not 245 00:16:18,590 --> 00:16:16,260 prepared we're not prepared what goes 246 00:16:20,210 --> 00:16:18,600 down we're in the Stone Age if it does 247 00:16:24,769 --> 00:16:20,220 all right 248 00:16:25,449 --> 00:16:24,779 uh you guys remember uh 249 00:16:27,350 --> 00:16:25,459 uh 250 00:16:30,949 --> 00:16:27,360 Amica 251 00:16:34,129 --> 00:16:30,959 right the robot with their eerily 252 00:16:36,949 --> 00:16:34,139 realistic facial expressions and her 253 00:16:40,310 --> 00:16:36,959 movements you remember her right 254 00:16:44,629 --> 00:16:40,320 well some say she is the world's most 255 00:16:47,329 --> 00:16:44,639 advanced humanoid robot 256 00:16:48,769 --> 00:16:47,339 but if that wasn't impressive enough 257 00:16:51,050 --> 00:16:48,779 soon 258 00:16:52,430 --> 00:16:51,060 she could be walking 259 00:16:54,170 --> 00:16:52,440 that's right 260 00:16:56,930 --> 00:16:54,180 because the robot which has been 261 00:17:00,170 --> 00:16:56,940 designed by British company engineered 262 00:17:03,590 --> 00:17:00,180 Arts has revealed that Engineers are 263 00:17:07,429 --> 00:17:03,600 working on Prototype legs which could be 264 00:17:11,230 --> 00:17:07,439 ready within the next year 265 00:17:13,909 --> 00:17:11,240 and that my friends is frightening 266 00:17:18,409 --> 00:17:13,919 astronomers using the international 267 00:17:21,049 --> 00:17:18,419 Gemini Observatory operated by nsf's nor 268 00:17:22,909 --> 00:17:21,059 lab have discovered the closest known 269 00:17:25,789 --> 00:17:22,919 black hole to Earth 270 00:17:29,470 --> 00:17:25,799 it's just 1600 light years away in the 271 00:17:31,150 --> 00:17:29,480 constellation of monoceros and dubbed 272 00:17:34,730 --> 00:17:31,160 Gaia 273 00:17:37,669 --> 00:17:34,740 bh1 yeah 274 00:17:40,190 --> 00:17:37,679 I'd say it's not very big it's like 10 275 00:17:41,870 --> 00:17:40,200 times the density of our sun 276 00:17:45,710 --> 00:17:41,880 so there you go 277 00:17:48,950 --> 00:17:45,720 all right where I'm at officials in 278 00:17:51,289 --> 00:17:48,960 Northern California are investigating an 279 00:17:54,190 --> 00:17:51,299 incident in which a bright ball of light 280 00:17:57,770 --> 00:17:54,200 some say it was a flaming basketball 281 00:18:00,710 --> 00:17:57,780 would seem to come from space 282 00:18:04,250 --> 00:18:00,720 is a meteorite to destroyed a house in 283 00:18:06,830 --> 00:18:04,260 Nevada County Dustin prosida said he was 284 00:18:09,890 --> 00:18:06,840 inside his house with his dogs when 285 00:18:13,190 --> 00:18:09,900 something hit his home and started a 286 00:18:14,750 --> 00:18:13,200 fire destroyed the house captain Josh 287 00:18:16,970 --> 00:18:14,760 Miller of the Penn Valley Fire 288 00:18:19,010 --> 00:18:16,980 Department said they received calls at 289 00:18:20,750 --> 00:18:19,020 about 7 30 PM for a structure fire 290 00:18:22,789 --> 00:18:20,760 caused by 291 00:18:25,909 --> 00:18:22,799 space debris 292 00:18:30,789 --> 00:18:25,919 it's unreal all right let's get this 293 00:18:34,970 --> 00:18:30,799 show cracking on this day in history 294 00:18:38,750 --> 00:18:34,980 1940 the Tacoma Narrows Bridge was open 295 00:18:42,289 --> 00:18:38,760 to traffic on July 1st 1940. 296 00:18:45,230 --> 00:18:42,299 it collapses due to high winds on this 297 00:18:46,909 --> 00:18:45,240 day in 1940 just 298 00:18:48,770 --> 00:18:46,919 four months 299 00:18:52,490 --> 00:18:48,780 after it opened 300 00:18:54,830 --> 00:18:52,500 that's right on this day in 1940 all 301 00:18:58,390 --> 00:18:54,840 right fader fact 302 00:19:02,630 --> 00:18:58,400 what's moving something's moving oh 303 00:19:06,350 --> 00:19:02,640 wow that's me I'm leaning 304 00:19:06,360 --> 00:19:09,470 stewardesses 305 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,590 all right I'll say it again 306 00:19:19,970 --> 00:19:14,870 stewardesses 307 00:19:22,130 --> 00:19:19,980 is a word that is no longer in use 308 00:19:26,690 --> 00:19:22,140 we know that 309 00:19:27,770 --> 00:19:26,700 and it's also the longest word that is 310 00:19:31,850 --> 00:19:27,780 typed 311 00:19:37,430 --> 00:19:33,110 that 312 00:19:38,990 --> 00:19:37,440 doing a lot of left-handed typing facts 313 00:19:41,630 --> 00:19:39,000 lately 314 00:19:46,130 --> 00:19:41,640 yeah I'm obsessed 315 00:19:50,870 --> 00:19:48,470 tonight very special guest Scott Walter 316 00:19:53,690 --> 00:19:50,880 is here it's going to be just another 317 00:19:56,930 --> 00:19:53,700 open conversation and it's the premiere 318 00:19:59,870 --> 00:19:56,940 of my new show into the Vortex on Gaia 319 00:20:04,549 --> 00:19:59,880 TV and the link for into the Vortex 320 00:20:06,230 --> 00:20:04,559 episode one season one is below go and 321 00:20:10,370 --> 00:20:06,240 do it tomorrow night is our Fade to 322 00:20:14,029 --> 00:20:10,380 Black AMA Wednesday is fader night okay 323 00:20:16,490 --> 00:20:14,039 not Thursday because Thursday it's Linda 324 00:20:18,710 --> 00:20:16,500 Moulton Howe all right all right now I 325 00:20:20,690 --> 00:20:18,720 gotta hit those River Moon coffee I need 326 00:20:24,650 --> 00:20:20,700 it 327 00:20:24,660 --> 00:20:31,490 rivermoonwellness.com 328 00:20:36,049 --> 00:20:34,970 Fade to Black blend man I am just jammed 329 00:20:39,590 --> 00:20:36,059 up 330 00:20:42,650 --> 00:20:39,600 but I feel good you know it's yeah 331 00:20:44,330 --> 00:20:42,660 yeah I think I I think I'm Pat 332 00:20:47,570 --> 00:20:44,340 past it 333 00:20:49,850 --> 00:20:47,580 uh that's her thank you Ken isn't that 334 00:20:51,830 --> 00:20:49,860 crazy can you imagine that walking 335 00:20:58,190 --> 00:20:51,840 around Amica 336 00:21:03,350 --> 00:21:00,710 go back Lee tappy 337 00:21:05,090 --> 00:21:03,360 all right 338 00:21:09,590 --> 00:21:05,100 so 339 00:21:15,529 --> 00:21:13,669 and over the weekend as uh 340 00:21:18,650 --> 00:21:15,539 uh myself and guy and everything were 341 00:21:21,950 --> 00:21:18,660 prepping and getting everything ready 342 00:21:25,549 --> 00:21:21,960 and and knowing you know November 7th 343 00:21:26,930 --> 00:21:25,559 and and uh the trailer uh went out I 344 00:21:28,810 --> 00:21:26,940 think the trailer went out Friday 345 00:21:31,789 --> 00:21:28,820 Thursday Friday 346 00:21:34,070 --> 00:21:31,799 and uh there it was on the trailer you 347 00:21:37,549 --> 00:21:34,080 know November 7th and 348 00:21:41,029 --> 00:21:37,559 right and 349 00:21:45,649 --> 00:21:41,039 and I got to thinking now a couple of 350 00:21:47,810 --> 00:21:45,659 weeks ago uh I leaked a little bit uh 351 00:21:49,250 --> 00:21:47,820 about the show I didn't say the network 352 00:21:53,270 --> 00:21:49,260 or anything like that or the name of the 353 00:21:56,210 --> 00:21:53,280 show but what I did say 354 00:21:58,610 --> 00:21:56,220 was that I was happy 355 00:22:03,770 --> 00:21:58,620 now here's the deal 356 00:22:09,590 --> 00:22:06,950 the dealing with networks I've done so 357 00:22:12,409 --> 00:22:09,600 much TV and film 358 00:22:16,549 --> 00:22:12,419 and radio that 359 00:22:19,730 --> 00:22:16,559 you go and you're made you know promises 360 00:22:21,890 --> 00:22:19,740 and contracts and all that and and I've 361 00:22:24,289 --> 00:22:21,900 never been happy never 362 00:22:29,169 --> 00:22:24,299 no not not even close 363 00:22:31,930 --> 00:22:29,179 and uh this time around 364 00:22:39,289 --> 00:22:31,940 I felt different 365 00:22:41,270 --> 00:22:39,299 all right and I and I knew that if and 366 00:22:44,750 --> 00:22:41,280 like I said earlier it's all about the 367 00:22:46,070 --> 00:22:44,760 editing I the content is is there I'm 368 00:22:47,570 --> 00:22:46,080 not worried about that 369 00:22:48,649 --> 00:22:47,580 but it's just got to be put together 370 00:22:50,990 --> 00:22:48,659 right 371 00:22:54,049 --> 00:22:51,000 but I felt it in my bones 372 00:22:56,090 --> 00:22:54,059 and after watching today that five 373 00:22:58,250 --> 00:22:56,100 minutes six minutes I don't think I got 374 00:23:02,810 --> 00:22:58,260 seven minutes I was like okay all right 375 00:23:06,950 --> 00:23:02,820 I I this is gonna be great I'm cool 376 00:23:09,350 --> 00:23:06,960 and it was a great feeling 377 00:23:11,630 --> 00:23:09,360 but here's the deal 378 00:23:15,049 --> 00:23:11,640 and I hope everybody enjoys it and we've 379 00:23:17,930 --> 00:23:15,059 got uh 11 more shows uh for this season 380 00:23:19,070 --> 00:23:17,940 and um and then we'll start working on 381 00:23:21,490 --> 00:23:19,080 season two 382 00:23:25,190 --> 00:23:21,500 but um 383 00:23:26,870 --> 00:23:25,200 here's the here's the thing that's why 384 00:23:29,270 --> 00:23:26,880 I just want you guys to listen to me the 385 00:23:34,850 --> 00:23:32,390 the last few months 386 00:23:37,549 --> 00:23:34,860 I've burnt the candle at both ends 387 00:23:40,070 --> 00:23:37,559 I worked way too much 388 00:23:41,630 --> 00:23:40,080 um I travel too much I work too much I 389 00:23:43,029 --> 00:23:41,640 didn't take any time off I didn't take 390 00:23:47,390 --> 00:23:43,039 care of me 391 00:23:50,930 --> 00:23:47,400 and there's a very isolated 392 00:23:52,130 --> 00:23:50,940 thing that happens in my world 393 00:23:54,909 --> 00:23:52,140 um 394 00:23:58,190 --> 00:23:54,919 I have the audience 395 00:24:01,190 --> 00:23:58,200 but the rest of the time because when 396 00:24:03,950 --> 00:24:01,200 you work seven days a week 397 00:24:07,909 --> 00:24:03,960 you're not you don't see friends you 398 00:24:10,250 --> 00:24:07,919 don't you don't unwind you don't have 399 00:24:11,330 --> 00:24:10,260 conversations everything is work work 400 00:24:13,850 --> 00:24:11,340 work 401 00:24:17,510 --> 00:24:13,860 shooting and this and that and cameras 402 00:24:21,950 --> 00:24:17,520 and and recording and dress and makeup 403 00:24:24,950 --> 00:24:21,960 and and and flights and and stuff and 404 00:24:28,130 --> 00:24:24,960 it's just 405 00:24:28,140 --> 00:24:31,549 and I burnt out 406 00:24:37,250 --> 00:24:34,610 I burnt out and 407 00:24:41,330 --> 00:24:37,260 um and I started to think to myself now 408 00:24:42,950 --> 00:24:41,340 this is this is how far burnt out I got 409 00:24:47,090 --> 00:24:42,960 um 410 00:24:49,130 --> 00:24:47,100 I started to think look I've achieved 411 00:24:50,630 --> 00:24:49,140 I've achieved everything in life that 412 00:24:53,390 --> 00:24:50,640 I've wanted to achieve 413 00:24:55,190 --> 00:24:53,400 yeah 414 00:24:59,690 --> 00:24:55,200 music 415 00:25:01,549 --> 00:24:59,700 art 416 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:01,559 radio 417 00:25:06,289 --> 00:25:03,730 television film 418 00:25:09,950 --> 00:25:06,299 [Music] 419 00:25:15,649 --> 00:25:09,960 you know it's just like everything that 420 00:25:17,750 --> 00:25:15,659 I've I've you know and I've I've done it 421 00:25:19,850 --> 00:25:17,760 and I'm you know and when you're feeling 422 00:25:21,710 --> 00:25:19,860 burnt out and you're feeling isolated 423 00:25:22,730 --> 00:25:21,720 and you and you don't have people around 424 00:25:28,669 --> 00:25:22,740 you 425 00:25:30,830 --> 00:25:28,679 let's just go do something else now 426 00:25:32,810 --> 00:25:30,840 let's go find something else let's go 427 00:25:35,990 --> 00:25:32,820 find another mountain to climb 428 00:25:38,269 --> 00:25:36,000 and and and and I was right there I'm 429 00:25:40,190 --> 00:25:38,279 like man I'm just tired 430 00:25:41,390 --> 00:25:40,200 just tired man I'm gonna take a couple 431 00:25:44,269 --> 00:25:41,400 of months off and then figure out the 432 00:25:46,190 --> 00:25:44,279 next stage of my life I'm gonna be 60. 433 00:25:48,710 --> 00:25:46,200 you know and I started thinking that and 434 00:25:51,769 --> 00:25:48,720 then and then 435 00:25:57,289 --> 00:25:53,289 no 436 00:26:01,010 --> 00:25:57,299 this is what I want to do 437 00:26:04,190 --> 00:26:01,020 this right here the TV is fine the the 438 00:26:05,870 --> 00:26:04,200 show was great and and all of that and 439 00:26:09,230 --> 00:26:05,880 there's it's going to be an awesome 440 00:26:10,870 --> 00:26:09,240 season too but what I'm saying is and I 441 00:26:14,750 --> 00:26:10,880 want all of you to understand 442 00:26:16,490 --> 00:26:14,760 that the last I was gonna say three or 443 00:26:17,990 --> 00:26:16,500 four months maybe six months but three 444 00:26:21,230 --> 00:26:18,000 or four months 445 00:26:25,510 --> 00:26:21,240 I went balls out 446 00:26:29,810 --> 00:26:25,520 balls out and I'm talking about working 447 00:26:33,070 --> 00:26:29,820 16 18 hours every day 448 00:26:38,289 --> 00:26:36,590 and you start to mend it's it's like 449 00:26:42,110 --> 00:26:38,299 this morose 450 00:26:44,930 --> 00:26:42,120 mortality thing you're like man 451 00:26:47,269 --> 00:26:44,940 you know but 452 00:26:50,390 --> 00:26:47,279 it's what I want to do 453 00:26:52,130 --> 00:26:50,400 so I'm not complaining or anything when 454 00:26:55,370 --> 00:26:52,140 I when I 455 00:26:57,110 --> 00:26:55,380 when I watched into the Vortex today and 456 00:26:59,330 --> 00:26:57,120 and knowing you know I've got Scott 457 00:27:01,190 --> 00:26:59,340 Walter on the show tonight and it's 458 00:27:03,409 --> 00:27:01,200 going to be a wonderful week and and 459 00:27:05,029 --> 00:27:03,419 everything else you know you get your 460 00:27:07,190 --> 00:27:05,039 second win but that's not my point when 461 00:27:09,230 --> 00:27:07,200 I watch into the Vortex today 462 00:27:10,870 --> 00:27:09,240 I just watched the intro I was like this 463 00:27:15,470 --> 00:27:10,880 is what it's about 464 00:27:18,110 --> 00:27:15,480 this is what I have strived for 465 00:27:20,029 --> 00:27:18,120 is it good enough 466 00:27:22,430 --> 00:27:20,039 you know are people going to look at 467 00:27:24,110 --> 00:27:22,440 this how are they is the information 468 00:27:28,730 --> 00:27:24,120 going to be there is it going to be this 469 00:27:34,610 --> 00:27:33,169 but what's the reality is for me 470 00:27:37,010 --> 00:27:34,620 is that 471 00:27:40,549 --> 00:27:37,020 the amount of work that I put in 472 00:27:44,210 --> 00:27:42,950 and I'm talking I'm talking straight at 473 00:27:46,850 --> 00:27:44,220 you right now 474 00:27:49,430 --> 00:27:46,860 whatever it is 475 00:27:51,649 --> 00:27:49,440 that you want to do 476 00:27:53,990 --> 00:27:51,659 put in the work 477 00:27:55,970 --> 00:27:54,000 and go and get it done don't make 478 00:28:02,630 --> 00:27:55,980 excuses 479 00:28:05,870 --> 00:28:02,640 Point finger go and get it done 480 00:28:07,130 --> 00:28:05,880 I I chose to do this I've been given 481 00:28:11,090 --> 00:28:07,140 opportunities 482 00:28:14,570 --> 00:28:11,100 and and I'm that man I have gone for it 483 00:28:16,130 --> 00:28:14,580 this is now this is 10 years talking 484 00:28:17,690 --> 00:28:16,140 about the last four months but I've been 485 00:28:21,049 --> 00:28:17,700 doing this for 10 years 486 00:28:25,070 --> 00:28:21,059 I'm humbled I'm thankful I'm 487 00:28:27,850 --> 00:28:25,080 appreciative I'm all of that 488 00:28:30,350 --> 00:28:27,860 you know and and I go 489 00:28:32,810 --> 00:28:30,360 and I cop a cold 490 00:28:34,130 --> 00:28:32,820 on Thursday I've got all this work to do 491 00:28:35,510 --> 00:28:34,140 and I don't have the energy and I'm 492 00:28:37,310 --> 00:28:35,520 trying to keep going I'm trying to keep 493 00:28:39,649 --> 00:28:37,320 my friend of the guys I'm like man 494 00:28:41,930 --> 00:28:39,659 oh 495 00:28:43,430 --> 00:28:41,940 but then I saw the show today 496 00:28:49,850 --> 00:28:43,440 it's all good 497 00:28:51,250 --> 00:28:49,860 this is my other point I stressed myself 498 00:28:52,789 --> 00:28:51,260 out 499 00:28:55,549 --> 00:28:52,799 worried 500 00:28:57,590 --> 00:28:55,559 you know is the show gonna be good is 501 00:29:01,850 --> 00:28:57,600 Fade to Black is that you know and and 502 00:29:05,630 --> 00:29:01,860 and and but if uh I stressed myself out 503 00:29:07,909 --> 00:29:05,640 I think I stressed myself into my immune 504 00:29:12,590 --> 00:29:07,919 system being compromised 505 00:29:15,970 --> 00:29:12,600 with that today which swings me right 506 00:29:18,409 --> 00:29:15,980 back to the this rant 507 00:29:21,289 --> 00:29:18,419 I took the turn 508 00:29:22,970 --> 00:29:21,299 and I think it was because I unstressed 509 00:29:25,730 --> 00:29:22,980 myself 510 00:29:27,590 --> 00:29:25,740 and I feel great 511 00:29:29,630 --> 00:29:27,600 I'm better than I did this morning when 512 00:29:30,830 --> 00:29:29,640 I got up let me tell you something it 513 00:29:33,590 --> 00:29:30,840 was stressful 514 00:29:35,630 --> 00:29:33,600 I love all of you thank you so much for 515 00:29:38,510 --> 00:29:35,640 putting up with me it's been a crazy 516 00:29:40,490 --> 00:29:38,520 ride this last 10 years uh into the 517 00:29:43,430 --> 00:29:40,500 Vortex is now 518 00:29:45,590 --> 00:29:43,440 on the air season one I want everybody 519 00:29:47,389 --> 00:29:45,600 to go and check it out I think it's 520 00:29:51,409 --> 00:29:47,399 awesome I think you're going to learn 521 00:29:53,330 --> 00:29:51,419 something and there is a lot we have 522 00:29:55,909 --> 00:29:53,340 selected in the way that we have 523 00:29:59,389 --> 00:29:55,919 structured all of this this is the Deep 524 00:30:01,909 --> 00:29:59,399 dive on every show and just go and check 525 00:30:04,610 --> 00:30:01,919 it out the links are below I want you to 526 00:30:06,830 --> 00:30:04,620 go and see it all right all right this 527 00:30:08,450 --> 00:30:06,840 is Fade to Black I am your host Jimmy 528 00:30:11,450 --> 00:30:08,460 church tonight 529 00:30:14,389 --> 00:30:11,460 Scott Walter is here A friend of mine 530 00:30:16,730 --> 00:30:14,399 that has been with me from the very very 531 00:30:18,470 --> 00:30:16,740 beginning and he's here with me tonight 532 00:30:20,389 --> 00:30:18,480 to help celebrate the premiere of into 533 00:30:22,250 --> 00:30:20,399 the Vortex 534 00:30:24,350 --> 00:30:22,260 that's right we're just gonna have an 535 00:30:26,990 --> 00:30:24,360 open conversation about all things 536 00:30:28,370 --> 00:30:27,000 unexplained this is Fade to Black I'm 537 00:30:30,730 --> 00:30:28,380 Yours Jimmy church I'll be right back 538 00:30:56,289 --> 00:30:30,740 after this short break stay with us 539 00:31:02,289 --> 00:30:56,299 [Music] 540 00:31:07,490 --> 00:31:05,269 this is Nicole Church daughter of you 541 00:31:09,889 --> 00:31:07,500 know who and you're listening to fade to 542 00:31:12,710 --> 00:31:09,899 black on jimmychurchradio.com and The 543 00:31:15,169 --> 00:31:12,720 Game Changer Network 544 00:31:22,570 --> 00:31:15,179 you're listening to Jimmy 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00:33:01,370 --> 00:32:58,440 MC once again this year for the 2023 574 00:33:04,370 --> 00:33:01,380 conscious life Expo February 10th 575 00:33:06,830 --> 00:33:04,380 through the 13th at The Lax Hilton in 576 00:33:08,990 --> 00:33:06,840 Los Angeles California this is a four 577 00:33:11,210 --> 00:33:09,000 day live event featuring hundreds of 578 00:33:13,549 --> 00:33:11,220 speakers exhibitors and not to miss 579 00:33:15,889 --> 00:33:13,559 special events check this out Linda 580 00:33:18,470 --> 00:33:15,899 Moulton Howe Bashar Deborah King Daniel 581 00:33:20,930 --> 00:33:18,480 Sheehan George Noory David Wolfe Sean 582 00:33:23,630 --> 00:33:20,940 Stone Danny Brinkley Susan Slaughter the 583 00:33:25,669 --> 00:33:23,640 Leo King David Palmer Scott Walter and 584 00:33:28,789 --> 00:33:25,679 another 200 inspirational speakers 585 00:33:32,570 --> 00:33:28,799 special events include a disclosure 586 00:33:35,930 --> 00:33:32,580 lunch with me Expos Got Talent hosted by 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Jimmy Church radio 617 00:35:30,109 --> 00:35:27,420 [Music] 618 00:35:32,390 --> 00:35:30,119 all right Welcome Back Fade to Black I'm 619 00:35:33,770 --> 00:35:32,400 Yours Jimmy church tonight Scott Walter 620 00:35:35,630 --> 00:35:33,780 is with us 621 00:35:38,390 --> 00:35:35,640 tonight's just gonna be another open 622 00:35:40,310 --> 00:35:38,400 conversation with Scott and I and also 623 00:35:42,589 --> 00:35:40,320 we're going to celebrate the premiere of 624 00:35:45,650 --> 00:35:42,599 into the Vortex 625 00:35:50,710 --> 00:35:45,660 went down today the links for the new 626 00:35:53,329 --> 00:35:50,720 show are below all right all right 627 00:35:54,829 --> 00:35:53,339 Scott he's an author he's the host of 628 00:35:56,630 --> 00:35:54,839 America unearth and has been the 629 00:36:00,050 --> 00:35:56,640 president of the American petrographic 630 00:36:01,609 --> 00:36:00,060 Services since 1990. he's responsible 631 00:36:03,349 --> 00:36:01,619 for the independent testing of the 632 00:36:06,710 --> 00:36:03,359 Kensington room Stone back in the year 633 00:36:09,349 --> 00:36:06,720 2000 starting in 2000 he's been the 634 00:36:10,849 --> 00:36:09,359 Principal photographer for more than 5 635 00:36:13,130 --> 00:36:10,859 000 investigations throughout the U.S 636 00:36:15,650 --> 00:36:13,140 Canada Puerto Rico including the 637 00:36:17,990 --> 00:36:15,660 evaluation of fire damage to concrete at 638 00:36:21,410 --> 00:36:18,000 the Pentagon following the Attacks of 639 00:36:23,569 --> 00:36:21,420 September 11 2001. all of his links are 640 00:36:26,569 --> 00:36:23,579 below and I would like to welcome back 641 00:36:28,730 --> 00:36:26,579 to fade to black the one the only 642 00:36:31,310 --> 00:36:28,740 Scott Walter Scott good evening my man 643 00:36:33,349 --> 00:36:31,320 how you doing I'm doing great Jimmy it's 644 00:36:35,270 --> 00:36:33,359 always good to be with you and I do want 645 00:36:38,329 --> 00:36:35,280 to say one thing Rick before we get 646 00:36:41,870 --> 00:36:38,339 started congratulations on your new show 647 00:36:45,829 --> 00:36:41,880 it premieres tonight how you feeling man 648 00:36:48,050 --> 00:36:45,839 man well you know uh I feel pretty good 649 00:36:50,569 --> 00:36:48,060 because you're on the team see that's 650 00:36:52,370 --> 00:36:50,579 the thing that's you know that's it 651 00:36:54,170 --> 00:36:52,380 every time every time I start a new 652 00:36:56,569 --> 00:36:54,180 project or there's something going on 653 00:36:59,210 --> 00:36:56,579 you're you're the first person I call 654 00:37:01,370 --> 00:36:59,220 and I go dude you know you want to do 655 00:37:04,490 --> 00:37:01,380 this and you say yes and and we do it 656 00:37:06,050 --> 00:37:04,500 and and there you go so yeah thank you 657 00:37:09,109 --> 00:37:06,060 for all of your support over the years 658 00:37:12,530 --> 00:37:09,119 man of course I mean you've uh supported 659 00:37:14,750 --> 00:37:12,540 me and now uh you've got a new gig going 660 00:37:17,329 --> 00:37:14,760 here and when you ask me about it I'm 661 00:37:20,270 --> 00:37:17,339 like how can I help and we had a really 662 00:37:21,710 --> 00:37:20,280 good time when we shot that episode I I 663 00:37:23,690 --> 00:37:21,720 don't know if we want to say much about 664 00:37:26,510 --> 00:37:23,700 it or do you want to talk about it but 665 00:37:30,170 --> 00:37:26,520 no no no no no no no no no no let's not 666 00:37:33,349 --> 00:37:30,180 we can talk about having fun shooting it 667 00:37:36,349 --> 00:37:33,359 but yeah but the content let's let's 668 00:37:38,569 --> 00:37:36,359 ever let everybody enjoy that and even 669 00:37:40,670 --> 00:37:38,579 for me Scott 670 00:37:42,230 --> 00:37:40,680 um I'll say this about uh our 671 00:37:44,089 --> 00:37:42,240 conversation 672 00:37:45,890 --> 00:37:44,099 um you and I I don't know how many 673 00:37:48,650 --> 00:37:45,900 things that we've done over the years I 674 00:37:52,430 --> 00:37:48,660 don't it's countless at this point 675 00:37:55,609 --> 00:37:52,440 um but even for me to sit there and and 676 00:37:58,310 --> 00:37:55,619 learn something and and do what we did 677 00:38:01,490 --> 00:37:58,320 uh for into the Vortex 678 00:38:04,130 --> 00:38:01,500 um it's just like Scott is bringing it 679 00:38:07,010 --> 00:38:04,140 you know and and there you go so 680 00:38:10,430 --> 00:38:07,020 everybody's gonna love it um I've seen 681 00:38:14,270 --> 00:38:10,440 some clips uh well here uh let's run 682 00:38:16,310 --> 00:38:14,280 this this is this is the trailer and you 683 00:38:20,390 --> 00:38:16,320 know what's funny uh you're in the 684 00:38:22,730 --> 00:38:20,400 trailer uh that that went out on Friday 685 00:38:25,550 --> 00:38:22,740 um have you seen this yet no I haven't 686 00:38:28,910 --> 00:38:25,560 seen nothing like government in the 687 00:38:32,450 --> 00:38:28,920 possession of crash retrieval that was 688 00:38:34,550 --> 00:38:32,460 made not on planet Earth we have a 689 00:38:37,130 --> 00:38:34,560 pretty good idea where those things were 690 00:38:39,770 --> 00:38:37,140 taken it's not the secret anymore that 691 00:38:41,450 --> 00:38:39,780 those things have been retrieved 692 00:38:44,450 --> 00:38:41,460 they've been retrieved all over the 693 00:38:48,410 --> 00:38:44,460 world by special teams they've been 694 00:38:52,310 --> 00:38:50,150 the Ukrainian researchers said you know 695 00:38:53,990 --> 00:38:52,320 we see these UAP under all kinds of 696 00:38:56,810 --> 00:38:54,000 visible conditions a lot of the time 697 00:38:59,210 --> 00:38:56,820 lots of different locations 698 00:39:00,890 --> 00:38:59,220 we also have the web telescope that can 699 00:39:02,870 --> 00:39:00,900 look at such an object from a different 700 00:39:04,670 --> 00:39:02,880 direction than the observatories on 701 00:39:06,589 --> 00:39:04,680 Earth the myths are consistent with 702 00:39:08,569 --> 00:39:06,599 oftentimes referred to as the gods and 703 00:39:10,790 --> 00:39:08,579 there's a lot more going on here not 704 00:39:13,250 --> 00:39:10,800 just on this planet but on other planets 705 00:39:15,650 --> 00:39:13,260 I think this is the art of the Covenant 706 00:39:17,569 --> 00:39:15,660 they were actually multiple arcs history 707 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:17,579 isn't what we've been taught and we're 708 00:39:20,510 --> 00:39:19,130 going to get to the bottom of it 709 00:39:22,910 --> 00:39:20,520 [Music] 710 00:39:28,970 --> 00:39:24,770 I love it 711 00:39:31,849 --> 00:39:28,980 there you go man and uh I'm excited I'm 712 00:39:33,950 --> 00:39:31,859 I'm excited you know there's some some 713 00:39:36,829 --> 00:39:33,960 friends of mine on there the guys that 714 00:39:39,410 --> 00:39:36,839 are uh people I really respect and I 715 00:39:41,930 --> 00:39:39,420 look up to pretty much all of them but 716 00:39:44,770 --> 00:39:41,940 uh Randall I know quite well Tim I know 717 00:39:47,990 --> 00:39:44,780 very well and I mean for him to say 718 00:39:49,970 --> 00:39:48,000 multiple arcs I mean wait a minute I 719 00:39:51,410 --> 00:39:49,980 thought there was like one Arc what's 720 00:39:55,430 --> 00:39:51,420 going on 721 00:39:58,250 --> 00:39:55,440 yeah that uh he's uh uh you know the the 722 00:40:02,750 --> 00:39:58,260 uh the premiere tonight episode one was 723 00:40:03,710 --> 00:40:02,760 was Timothy really yeah he is you know I 724 00:40:07,190 --> 00:40:03,720 don't 725 00:40:09,770 --> 00:40:07,200 um here's you know the drill man 726 00:40:12,290 --> 00:40:09,780 um you deliver the content and then 727 00:40:15,230 --> 00:40:12,300 after that you're just along for the 728 00:40:17,210 --> 00:40:15,240 ride what show what episode what this 729 00:40:18,829 --> 00:40:17,220 who's that what the edit you know that 730 00:40:20,390 --> 00:40:18,839 that's it I have nothing to do with any 731 00:40:24,530 --> 00:40:20,400 of it yeah 732 00:40:28,790 --> 00:40:24,540 um and uh but they they chose uh uh Tim 733 00:40:31,730 --> 00:40:28,800 Tim Hogan uh for uh episode one and and 734 00:40:34,550 --> 00:40:31,740 I mean he he's just fantastic 735 00:40:38,030 --> 00:40:34,560 um but uh it it it's just so we're I 736 00:40:41,870 --> 00:40:38,040 have no idea everybody's asking me you 737 00:40:43,790 --> 00:40:41,880 know who's on I don't know you don't 738 00:40:46,310 --> 00:40:43,800 know well you know what I know exactly 739 00:40:47,630 --> 00:40:46,320 what you're talking about because 740 00:40:49,730 --> 00:40:47,640 um one of the things that I was 741 00:40:51,710 --> 00:40:49,740 concerned about when I first did America 742 00:40:53,930 --> 00:40:51,720 on Earth was 743 00:40:55,730 --> 00:40:53,940 we shot these you know what I thought 744 00:40:59,089 --> 00:40:55,740 were really good episodes in the field 745 00:41:01,670 --> 00:40:59,099 and I did the voiceovers and then you 746 00:41:04,490 --> 00:41:01,680 turn it over to a group of people and 747 00:41:07,250 --> 00:41:04,500 you know your life your future your 748 00:41:10,849 --> 00:41:07,260 credibility is in their hands and I have 749 00:41:13,069 --> 00:41:10,859 to say that I was very pleased and I I 750 00:41:15,950 --> 00:41:13,079 you know the way and appreciative of of 751 00:41:19,910 --> 00:41:15,960 how they always made me look and sound 752 00:41:21,890 --> 00:41:19,920 way better than than I was and so I'm 753 00:41:24,950 --> 00:41:21,900 curious have you seen this first episode 754 00:41:28,790 --> 00:41:24,960 did you watch it yeah well I watched uh 755 00:41:31,790 --> 00:41:28,800 uh the I can't stand watching myself oh 756 00:41:34,609 --> 00:41:31,800 yeah join the club pal yeah yeah no I 757 00:41:37,010 --> 00:41:34,619 watched uh the the opening the intro 758 00:41:38,450 --> 00:41:37,020 today I wanted to see the edits and and 759 00:41:42,230 --> 00:41:38,460 the music and how they laid everything 760 00:41:45,349 --> 00:41:42,240 out and I watched the first maybe 761 00:41:48,530 --> 00:41:45,359 question and how 762 00:41:49,849 --> 00:41:48,540 um you know just how it because I just 763 00:41:51,890 --> 00:41:49,859 wanted to make sure that it was smooth 764 00:41:54,230 --> 00:41:51,900 and if it's if it's smooth in the 765 00:41:55,730 --> 00:41:54,240 beginning I know that the content is 766 00:41:58,370 --> 00:41:55,740 there 767 00:42:01,730 --> 00:41:58,380 um just so everybody knows 768 00:42:04,910 --> 00:42:01,740 um uh I was the one thing that I wanted 769 00:42:06,170 --> 00:42:04,920 to do and and so did Gaia by the way is 770 00:42:08,630 --> 00:42:06,180 that 771 00:42:09,710 --> 00:42:08,640 it's a half hour show we we shoot for a 772 00:42:13,190 --> 00:42:09,720 half hour 773 00:42:16,550 --> 00:42:13,200 no no edits no takes no nothing it's 774 00:42:19,609 --> 00:42:16,560 just it's and that's you know so that's 775 00:42:21,829 --> 00:42:19,619 that's what's there you you you get it 776 00:42:24,290 --> 00:42:21,839 um I think the episode today was 39 777 00:42:25,670 --> 00:42:24,300 minutes uh with the intro and the out or 778 00:42:27,470 --> 00:42:25,680 whatever 779 00:42:30,109 --> 00:42:27,480 um that's that's what we shot we shot 780 00:42:32,690 --> 00:42:30,119 for the same thing with you yeah 781 00:42:35,210 --> 00:42:32,700 um you were in the studio with us for 782 00:42:37,970 --> 00:42:35,220 half hour 35 minutes that's that's it 783 00:42:40,010 --> 00:42:37,980 it's boom boom and 784 00:42:42,650 --> 00:42:40,020 um the other thing that I wanted to do 785 00:42:44,569 --> 00:42:42,660 was I wanted to 786 00:42:48,470 --> 00:42:44,579 um you know so I've got my uh my little 787 00:42:51,650 --> 00:42:48,480 sidekick uh co-host uh Josh yeah and and 788 00:42:54,170 --> 00:42:51,660 who's just amazing but what I wanted to 789 00:42:57,829 --> 00:42:54,180 do and this was 790 00:43:00,829 --> 00:42:57,839 um just you've done so much TV so 791 00:43:04,190 --> 00:43:00,839 appreciate this Scott I said to Gaia I 792 00:43:08,210 --> 00:43:04,200 said look let's instead of doing a ton 793 00:43:10,010 --> 00:43:08,220 of editing let's have somebody in the 794 00:43:11,990 --> 00:43:10,020 studio with me 795 00:43:14,690 --> 00:43:12,000 playing the video 796 00:43:16,609 --> 00:43:14,700 showing the graphics and then we sit and 797 00:43:18,710 --> 00:43:16,619 we talk about them instead of just doing 798 00:43:22,130 --> 00:43:18,720 it in post 799 00:43:24,530 --> 00:43:22,140 let's do a lot right there and that I 800 00:43:26,390 --> 00:43:24,540 think it was very very very effective I 801 00:43:29,750 --> 00:43:26,400 think it's really cool well you know 802 00:43:32,329 --> 00:43:29,760 what I think sometimes shows can be 803 00:43:34,130 --> 00:43:32,339 um a little overproduced right and it's 804 00:43:37,910 --> 00:43:34,140 kind of nice to have something that 805 00:43:40,250 --> 00:43:37,920 feels more raw and earthy and like 806 00:43:42,650 --> 00:43:40,260 you're there with them and it's it's not 807 00:43:45,230 --> 00:43:42,660 overproduced it's real and that's 808 00:43:46,609 --> 00:43:45,240 exactly what we did I mean it's you know 809 00:43:49,190 --> 00:43:46,619 let's face it if you're only going to be 810 00:43:51,410 --> 00:43:49,200 in there for whatever 45 minutes at the 811 00:43:53,809 --> 00:43:51,420 most you got to be on you got to be 812 00:43:55,730 --> 00:43:53,819 ready and you know you got to be ready 813 00:43:57,109 --> 00:43:55,740 to handle what you threw were thrown at 814 00:43:59,510 --> 00:43:57,119 us 815 00:44:01,730 --> 00:43:59,520 um you know and and the graphics came up 816 00:44:04,370 --> 00:44:01,740 they were pulling them up in real time 817 00:44:06,829 --> 00:44:04,380 and sometimes there's something to be 818 00:44:08,569 --> 00:44:06,839 said for that it feels I think it feels 819 00:44:12,349 --> 00:44:08,579 really good instead of something that's 820 00:44:14,150 --> 00:44:12,359 you know super slick and and sometimes 821 00:44:15,890 --> 00:44:14,160 over produce you know what I mean I mean 822 00:44:18,230 --> 00:44:15,900 Rough and Ready works sometimes yeah 823 00:44:21,530 --> 00:44:18,240 yeah yeah yeah yeah exactly and see this 824 00:44:25,430 --> 00:44:21,540 is the thing thing is you know so we 825 00:44:27,589 --> 00:44:25,440 pull up a graphic and and you know we're 826 00:44:30,230 --> 00:44:27,599 looking at it in the studio and we're 827 00:44:33,470 --> 00:44:30,240 talking about it in real time as we're 828 00:44:36,530 --> 00:44:33,480 looking at it you can't you can't fake 829 00:44:40,550 --> 00:44:36,540 that it's a real conversation and I'm 830 00:44:43,490 --> 00:44:40,560 just happy about that I'm just I I mean 831 00:44:46,609 --> 00:44:43,500 I I've tried to do this uh with so many 832 00:44:49,790 --> 00:44:46,619 networks you know over the years and and 833 00:44:51,410 --> 00:44:49,800 things I even even you know going back 834 00:44:53,210 --> 00:44:51,420 to coast to coast and you and I have 835 00:44:56,630 --> 00:44:53,220 done so many Coast to Coast together too 836 00:45:01,010 --> 00:44:56,640 as well as as Fade to Black is that I 837 00:45:04,190 --> 00:45:01,020 like a conversation I don't have notes I 838 00:45:08,030 --> 00:45:04,200 don't print things I don't you know this 839 00:45:11,210 --> 00:45:08,040 is it's just a conversation and I wanted 840 00:45:13,550 --> 00:45:11,220 to be able to capture that on camera and 841 00:45:15,109 --> 00:45:13,560 we I think we did it man I think we did 842 00:45:16,849 --> 00:45:15,119 I think we can't wait to see the 843 00:45:20,329 --> 00:45:16,859 episodes I 844 00:45:24,109 --> 00:45:20,339 um I I I felt what we were going to do 845 00:45:26,630 --> 00:45:24,119 was going to be kind of what you 846 00:45:28,490 --> 00:45:26,640 described and uh I'm I'm looking forward 847 00:45:31,069 --> 00:45:28,500 I think it'll be successful you don't 848 00:45:33,970 --> 00:45:31,079 have any ratings back or any feedback or 849 00:45:37,849 --> 00:45:33,980 I mean what's what's 850 00:45:39,589 --> 00:45:37,859 yeah it just premiered man uh I you know 851 00:45:43,069 --> 00:45:39,599 and I mean it might be a little early 852 00:45:45,410 --> 00:45:43,079 but you know hey look they'll tell me 853 00:45:48,109 --> 00:45:45,420 the numbers but I'm not going to ask no 854 00:45:50,750 --> 00:45:48,119 no no no I don't want to know it's gonna 855 00:45:54,050 --> 00:45:50,760 be fine but see here's the thing and 856 00:45:55,609 --> 00:45:54,060 when everybody goes and watches it 857 00:45:59,829 --> 00:45:55,619 um check this out 858 00:46:03,829 --> 00:45:59,839 Scott you walk down the set and you saw 859 00:46:06,050 --> 00:46:03,839 what they had done you could see a 860 00:46:08,809 --> 00:46:06,060 commitment from the network they built a 861 00:46:12,290 --> 00:46:08,819 massive set right and you know we've got 862 00:46:14,569 --> 00:46:12,300 10 cameras and and and all of the and 863 00:46:18,230 --> 00:46:14,579 but here's the thing 864 00:46:20,750 --> 00:46:18,240 um I go out I do a costume change right 865 00:46:24,470 --> 00:46:20,760 um I got a 15 minute window next guest 866 00:46:28,250 --> 00:46:24,480 is coming in we sit down we shoot for 40 867 00:46:31,790 --> 00:46:28,260 minutes and then done out you know and 868 00:46:33,770 --> 00:46:31,800 start that's that that's it you know and 869 00:46:37,010 --> 00:46:33,780 and you know we're going to shoot four 870 00:46:39,470 --> 00:46:37,020 of those a day and it's a it's a 871 00:46:42,050 --> 00:46:39,480 well-oiled machine you know and when you 872 00:46:43,910 --> 00:46:42,060 walked out on the set and you saw the 873 00:46:45,410 --> 00:46:43,920 production what did you think you'd 874 00:46:48,650 --> 00:46:45,420 probably have never experienced it's 875 00:46:50,690 --> 00:46:48,660 like CNN right yeah no it was totally 876 00:46:52,849 --> 00:46:50,700 different than anything I've done I mean 877 00:46:55,190 --> 00:46:52,859 I've done sit-down interviews where I 878 00:46:57,829 --> 00:46:55,200 walk into a set you know they get you 879 00:47:01,069 --> 00:46:57,839 ready to go and you sit down but we 880 00:47:03,790 --> 00:47:01,079 might be interviewed for two three hours 881 00:47:06,349 --> 00:47:03,800 and then they'll edit that down to maybe 882 00:47:09,349 --> 00:47:06,359 you know a total when you add everything 883 00:47:11,390 --> 00:47:09,359 up maybe five to ten minutes they'll 884 00:47:13,370 --> 00:47:11,400 pick the best stuff this is total in 885 00:47:15,650 --> 00:47:13,380 America on Earth are you kidding me we 886 00:47:17,510 --> 00:47:15,660 go on the road for a week you know I'll 887 00:47:20,630 --> 00:47:17,520 come into the you know the studio and do 888 00:47:23,870 --> 00:47:20,640 uh uh you know the lab shots might take 889 00:47:25,849 --> 00:47:23,880 two three days that's per episode 890 00:47:28,430 --> 00:47:25,859 um voice-overs and whatever else we got 891 00:47:30,829 --> 00:47:28,440 to do pickups here and there I mean it's 892 00:47:34,010 --> 00:47:30,839 a lot of work and you're shooting four 893 00:47:37,430 --> 00:47:34,020 episodes a freaking day I mean in one 894 00:47:39,410 --> 00:47:37,440 day so it's so much fun completely 895 00:47:42,829 --> 00:47:39,420 different thing you know yeah so much 896 00:47:45,349 --> 00:47:42,839 fun we'll see here's here's the thing is 897 00:47:47,030 --> 00:47:45,359 uh we're talking about A-list top shelf 898 00:47:48,170 --> 00:47:47,040 guests right 899 00:47:49,910 --> 00:47:48,180 um number two 900 00:47:53,109 --> 00:47:49,920 um I know all of the guests but I also 901 00:47:57,050 --> 00:47:53,119 know the subject right number three 902 00:48:00,170 --> 00:47:57,060 well-oiled machine yeah so I know I'm 903 00:48:03,190 --> 00:48:00,180 able to walk through look I'm I'm I'm 904 00:48:08,150 --> 00:48:03,200 she's I'm I'm set for 10 hours yeah 905 00:48:12,230 --> 00:48:08,160 that's a long day and uh but just as 906 00:48:15,290 --> 00:48:12,240 long as each guest is you know I you 907 00:48:19,069 --> 00:48:15,300 know at that level the conversation is 908 00:48:21,650 --> 00:48:19,079 going to be just a breeze I have to be 909 00:48:25,130 --> 00:48:21,660 focused yeah you know I mean the cameras 910 00:48:27,770 --> 00:48:25,140 there are no second takes That's it man 911 00:48:29,270 --> 00:48:27,780 we can't go and shoot shoot for 30 912 00:48:32,329 --> 00:48:29,280 minutes 40 minutes ago you know what 913 00:48:34,430 --> 00:48:32,339 let's do this again no we've got the 914 00:48:38,089 --> 00:48:34,440 next guest coming in that's it this is 915 00:48:40,430 --> 00:48:38,099 live live we're banging this out let's 916 00:48:42,230 --> 00:48:40,440 be honest you can blow Sunshine up all 917 00:48:43,790 --> 00:48:42,240 of our fannies about about how good you 918 00:48:46,250 --> 00:48:43,800 think we are but look dude you're 919 00:48:48,950 --> 00:48:46,260 running the show your experience you 920 00:48:50,930 --> 00:48:48,960 know what you're doing and uh and it 921 00:48:52,490 --> 00:48:50,940 shows when people watch it they're gonna 922 00:48:55,430 --> 00:48:52,500 see a guy that knows what he's doing 923 00:48:57,470 --> 00:48:55,440 he's taking care of his guests and and 924 00:49:00,290 --> 00:48:57,480 you know if it's okay with you 925 00:49:03,650 --> 00:49:00,300 um Sid Goldberg is can I mention said 926 00:49:06,589 --> 00:49:03,660 yeah absolutely I mean Sid was I I love 927 00:49:09,530 --> 00:49:06,599 that guy and you know he was we we came 928 00:49:11,390 --> 00:49:09,540 in he made us feel welcome uh he let you 929 00:49:13,250 --> 00:49:11,400 do your thing let everybody else do 930 00:49:16,970 --> 00:49:13,260 their thing but I spent a little time 931 00:49:19,490 --> 00:49:16,980 with him afterwards and it was we really 932 00:49:21,890 --> 00:49:19,500 had a great conversation and I know that 933 00:49:24,410 --> 00:49:21,900 he plays an integral part of the show 934 00:49:26,030 --> 00:49:24,420 yes and I gotta tell you man I haven't 935 00:49:28,430 --> 00:49:26,040 known him very long but I'm very 936 00:49:31,250 --> 00:49:28,440 impressed and 937 00:49:33,530 --> 00:49:31,260 um he's he's got to be helping you and 938 00:49:35,930 --> 00:49:33,540 and I just I just want to give him some 939 00:49:39,410 --> 00:49:35,940 uh some Kudos he's he's a really good 940 00:49:42,109 --> 00:49:39,420 dude well here's the here's um uh I mean 941 00:49:43,609 --> 00:49:42,119 Sid posted this so I'll go ahead and and 942 00:49:46,730 --> 00:49:43,619 say this 943 00:49:47,870 --> 00:49:46,740 um he did a post over the weekend and he 944 00:49:50,089 --> 00:49:47,880 said 945 00:49:52,430 --> 00:49:50,099 six years in the making 946 00:49:56,210 --> 00:49:52,440 six years we've worked on this show and 947 00:49:58,670 --> 00:49:56,220 and now it's premiering and and I just 948 00:50:02,089 --> 00:49:58,680 start and Sid and I 949 00:50:04,730 --> 00:50:02,099 just Sid and I know the truth it has 950 00:50:08,450 --> 00:50:04,740 been six years wow it's been six years 951 00:50:10,670 --> 00:50:08,460 and I was stuck in contracts before and 952 00:50:15,470 --> 00:50:10,680 this and there was other stuff going on 953 00:50:18,410 --> 00:50:15,480 and and and but but we've been the idea 954 00:50:21,650 --> 00:50:18,420 The Germ right the little thing in that 955 00:50:25,790 --> 00:50:21,660 petri dish that was growing uh was there 956 00:50:28,550 --> 00:50:25,800 and we we just fine-tuned it like a 957 00:50:32,930 --> 00:50:28,560 jeweler screw you know with that yeah go 958 00:50:35,750 --> 00:50:32,940 find Jeweler's watch and by the time uh 959 00:50:37,730 --> 00:50:35,760 that we were you know we pulled the 960 00:50:38,930 --> 00:50:37,740 trigger on this which was about a year 961 00:50:41,690 --> 00:50:38,940 and a half ago 962 00:50:44,270 --> 00:50:41,700 I remember you and I had a conversation 963 00:50:46,849 --> 00:50:44,280 I can talk about this now you you were 964 00:50:50,210 --> 00:50:46,859 you told me what your vision was what 965 00:50:52,970 --> 00:50:50,220 your your dream was and it's happening 966 00:50:56,030 --> 00:50:52,980 man I mean whether it takes you know a 967 00:50:58,250 --> 00:50:56,040 year two years six years whatever you 968 00:51:01,370 --> 00:50:58,260 had a vision this is what you wanted to 969 00:51:03,589 --> 00:51:01,380 do and based on what that conversation 970 00:51:06,109 --> 00:51:03,599 we had a year and a half ago that's 971 00:51:08,270 --> 00:51:06,119 that's what I experienced and and I 972 00:51:10,730 --> 00:51:08,280 think it I think it's awesome I remember 973 00:51:12,049 --> 00:51:10,740 that conversation and you and I talked 974 00:51:15,230 --> 00:51:12,059 for like two or three hours that day 975 00:51:16,609 --> 00:51:15,240 yeah yeah and I said you know Scott in a 976 00:51:19,150 --> 00:51:16,619 perfect world 977 00:51:22,430 --> 00:51:19,160 the show would be 978 00:51:24,010 --> 00:51:22,440 right and and and we discussed that that 979 00:51:27,829 --> 00:51:24,020 format 980 00:51:31,670 --> 00:51:27,839 well now now we did it we pulled it off 981 00:51:34,430 --> 00:51:31,680 and and I mean hats off to Sid Sid uh 982 00:51:37,270 --> 00:51:34,440 fought for this all the way through I 983 00:51:39,730 --> 00:51:37,280 hope he's listening right now [\h__\h] 984 00:51:42,530 --> 00:51:39,740 sit at night 985 00:51:46,270 --> 00:51:42,540 how did you put up with this guy for six 986 00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:53,450 Sid and I were under so much uh pressure 987 00:52:00,829 --> 00:51:58,010 um uh to to deliver this right and and 988 00:52:04,430 --> 00:52:00,839 our expectations you know Sid and I work 989 00:52:05,450 --> 00:52:04,440 really well together but we also push 990 00:52:07,690 --> 00:52:05,460 each other 991 00:52:10,010 --> 00:52:07,700 and there were a couple of moments that 992 00:52:11,569 --> 00:52:10,020 there was a couple of moments of sitting 993 00:52:13,870 --> 00:52:11,579 there on the phone or in person or 994 00:52:16,910 --> 00:52:13,880 whatever like man okay 995 00:52:22,609 --> 00:52:16,920 we need to chill out or or this is 996 00:52:28,490 --> 00:52:26,930 um but um I I called Sid today and uh I 997 00:52:31,370 --> 00:52:28,500 I texted him and then I called him I 998 00:52:36,890 --> 00:52:31,380 said man just thank you thank you I mean 999 00:52:38,390 --> 00:52:36,900 really I mean it was it was now okay so 1000 00:52:39,950 --> 00:52:38,400 um the links for the show are below I 1001 00:52:41,270 --> 00:52:39,960 want everybody to go and enjoy it now 1002 00:52:42,650 --> 00:52:41,280 that you've got a little behind the 1003 00:52:45,230 --> 00:52:42,660 scenes 1004 00:52:49,730 --> 00:52:45,240 um when you see the show I think you'll 1005 00:52:52,849 --> 00:52:49,740 appreciate uh the set design how we 1006 00:52:55,069 --> 00:52:52,859 um uh deal with uh three people on set 1007 00:52:58,190 --> 00:52:55,079 with the cameras 1008 00:53:01,490 --> 00:52:58,200 um and things but it's a real uh 1009 00:53:03,770 --> 00:53:01,500 real-time conversation uh with no edits 1010 00:53:06,250 --> 00:53:03,780 uh that's it's just smoking good but 1011 00:53:08,930 --> 00:53:06,260 here's the thing 1012 00:53:11,750 --> 00:53:08,940 and then I had a thought I wanted to 1013 00:53:14,750 --> 00:53:11,760 share just to get your take okay so 1014 00:53:17,450 --> 00:53:14,760 here's the thing is 1015 00:53:19,430 --> 00:53:17,460 did you feel 1016 00:53:23,030 --> 00:53:19,440 under pressure 1017 00:53:24,410 --> 00:53:23,040 because my questions now I I'm not I 1018 00:53:27,410 --> 00:53:24,420 don't want to get specific about the 1019 00:53:30,470 --> 00:53:27,420 show but I want 1020 00:53:32,930 --> 00:53:30,480 the secrets I you know and this is 1021 00:53:36,770 --> 00:53:32,940 happening you don't have a chance to 1022 00:53:40,490 --> 00:53:36,780 think about it did you feel strange but 1023 00:53:41,210 --> 00:53:40,500 just spitting stuff out like you were 1024 00:53:44,329 --> 00:53:41,220 um 1025 00:53:45,349 --> 00:53:44,339 because you did you did I I every guest 1026 00:53:50,390 --> 00:53:45,359 did 1027 00:53:52,130 --> 00:53:50,400 mean I kind of knew that you were going 1028 00:53:54,470 --> 00:53:52,140 to bring it I sort of understood a 1029 00:53:55,970 --> 00:53:54,480 little bit of the format and I knew that 1030 00:53:58,250 --> 00:53:55,980 there wasn't going to be a lot of time 1031 00:54:01,010 --> 00:53:58,260 to sort of set the table it was like 1032 00:54:02,510 --> 00:54:01,020 okay here's the meal let's see how do 1033 00:54:05,630 --> 00:54:02,520 you like it you know I mean I didn't 1034 00:54:07,430 --> 00:54:05,640 have time to really think but I I kind 1035 00:54:09,109 --> 00:54:07,440 of like that because you know what I 1036 00:54:11,329 --> 00:54:09,119 think what happens is when people don't 1037 00:54:13,010 --> 00:54:11,339 have time to think they sort of just 1038 00:54:15,770 --> 00:54:13,020 blurt out what they're really thinking 1039 00:54:18,049 --> 00:54:15,780 right you're gonna get the real answer 1040 00:54:20,030 --> 00:54:18,059 you're going to get the closest thing to 1041 00:54:22,010 --> 00:54:20,040 the truth maybe you're gonna get some 1042 00:54:23,870 --> 00:54:22,020 stuff that you do you didn't anticipate 1043 00:54:26,230 --> 00:54:23,880 maybe I'm going to say some things that 1044 00:54:30,530 --> 00:54:26,240 I'm going to regret that I said I don't 1045 00:54:33,650 --> 00:54:30,540 think I did that but but again that's 1046 00:54:36,049 --> 00:54:33,660 when you know it's gold right if you're 1047 00:54:38,270 --> 00:54:36,059 walking off the set going oh man I think 1048 00:54:40,430 --> 00:54:38,280 I I think I the hell that I did too much 1049 00:54:42,970 --> 00:54:40,440 yeah yeah yeah did I really say that 1050 00:54:46,670 --> 00:54:42,980 yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah 1051 00:54:49,250 --> 00:54:46,680 and I'm so happy about that 1052 00:54:51,470 --> 00:54:49,260 the thing is 1053 00:54:52,670 --> 00:54:51,480 um I put and I was talking about this 1054 00:54:54,770 --> 00:54:52,680 earlier 1055 00:54:56,390 --> 00:54:54,780 um there was there was a lot of pressure 1056 00:54:59,930 --> 00:54:56,400 to deliver 1057 00:55:02,510 --> 00:54:59,940 um on me personally and man you know 1058 00:55:05,990 --> 00:55:02,520 what I'm I'm rapping each each episode 1059 00:55:10,609 --> 00:55:06,000 and I'm just walking outside just to get 1060 00:55:11,809 --> 00:55:10,619 my head you know and the amount of 1061 00:55:13,609 --> 00:55:11,819 pressure that you have to put on 1062 00:55:14,390 --> 00:55:13,619 yourself because to be honest with you 1063 00:55:17,390 --> 00:55:14,400 man 1064 00:55:19,309 --> 00:55:17,400 at that moment for those 30 minutes 1065 00:55:22,250 --> 00:55:19,319 I got to be the smartest guy in the 1066 00:55:24,890 --> 00:55:22,260 world yeah yeah I gotta be on my game so 1067 00:55:28,510 --> 00:55:24,900 does the guest but you know what I mean 1068 00:55:31,910 --> 00:55:28,520 and that's you know I everywhere 1069 00:55:34,549 --> 00:55:31,920 you're driving okay and we're riding 1070 00:55:37,430 --> 00:55:34,559 along I mean we have to to do our part 1071 00:55:39,650 --> 00:55:37,440 but you're driving and you're making 1072 00:55:43,130 --> 00:55:39,660 sure that we're on I mean it's a lot of 1073 00:55:46,670 --> 00:55:43,140 work being the host of a show is is 1074 00:55:49,549 --> 00:55:46,680 difficult enough but again the kind of 1075 00:55:51,710 --> 00:55:49,559 Hosting that I've done it's like if I 1076 00:55:54,770 --> 00:55:51,720 screw it up okay let's do it again right 1077 00:55:57,650 --> 00:55:54,780 let's do it again or if if your guest 1078 00:56:00,049 --> 00:55:57,660 screws up right I may have a beautiful 1079 00:56:02,510 --> 00:56:00,059 setup for this person and it's beautiful 1080 00:56:04,430 --> 00:56:02,520 and they screw it up right then you got 1081 00:56:06,829 --> 00:56:04,440 to do it again you couldn't do that man 1082 00:56:09,650 --> 00:56:06,839 you had to be on every time that's it 1083 00:56:11,329 --> 00:56:09,660 and we had to be on every time but but 1084 00:56:13,250 --> 00:56:11,339 the beautiful thing is I mean at least 1085 00:56:14,990 --> 00:56:13,260 for you and me 1086 00:56:18,290 --> 00:56:15,000 um we've done it so much together we 1087 00:56:21,170 --> 00:56:18,300 know each other it was natural it was it 1088 00:56:23,569 --> 00:56:21,180 was really easy frankly but I know it's 1089 00:56:25,430 --> 00:56:23,579 not easy especially for you all I had to 1090 00:56:28,309 --> 00:56:25,440 do was answer the questions and talk 1091 00:56:30,349 --> 00:56:28,319 about what I already know right and you 1092 00:56:33,349 --> 00:56:30,359 know but you got to Tee It Up and people 1093 00:56:35,990 --> 00:56:33,359 think that's easy it's not easy you know 1094 00:56:39,290 --> 00:56:36,000 and and again you and I are friends so 1095 00:56:41,150 --> 00:56:39,300 you know trying to but but making people 1096 00:56:42,849 --> 00:56:41,160 comfortable right when you're the 1097 00:56:45,589 --> 00:56:42,859 interviewer you're talking to somebody 1098 00:56:48,049 --> 00:56:45,599 that you don't know or you don't know 1099 00:56:49,190 --> 00:56:48,059 that well and they're nervous and you 1100 00:56:50,870 --> 00:56:49,200 know you got to make them feel 1101 00:56:53,630 --> 00:56:50,880 comfortable there's a lot more to it 1102 00:56:55,670 --> 00:56:53,640 than people think and it's a tough job 1103 00:56:57,890 --> 00:56:55,680 it's way harder than people think 1104 00:56:59,210 --> 00:56:57,900 do you feel and we'll talk about this 1105 00:57:02,150 --> 00:56:59,220 after the Break 1106 00:57:05,210 --> 00:57:02,160 um do you feel 1107 00:57:07,970 --> 00:57:05,220 um pressure the way that 1108 00:57:09,230 --> 00:57:07,980 um uh the way that you investigate and 1109 00:57:10,970 --> 00:57:09,240 research and then turn around and 1110 00:57:13,970 --> 00:57:10,980 present this stuff 1111 00:57:17,089 --> 00:57:13,980 um you are you're way outside of the box 1112 00:57:19,910 --> 00:57:17,099 you are not conventional at all do you 1113 00:57:25,069 --> 00:57:19,920 feel that weight and that pressure uh to 1114 00:57:28,250 --> 00:57:25,079 to to to keep not not only the facts but 1115 00:57:29,990 --> 00:57:28,260 you want to make sure because people are 1116 00:57:31,730 --> 00:57:30,000 listening right you don't want to say 1117 00:57:33,130 --> 00:57:31,740 the wrong thing do you put that pressure 1118 00:57:35,569 --> 00:57:33,140 on yourself 1119 00:57:38,049 --> 00:57:35,579 sometimes sometimes 1120 00:57:40,430 --> 00:57:38,059 um you know you don't want to over 1121 00:57:43,069 --> 00:57:40,440 overstep your bounds you don't want to 1122 00:57:45,890 --> 00:57:43,079 out kick your coverage you certainly 1123 00:57:47,829 --> 00:57:45,900 don't want to talk over uh over people's 1124 00:57:51,049 --> 00:57:47,839 heads you got to make it understandable 1125 00:57:53,089 --> 00:57:51,059 and I I gotta you know I I when I look 1126 00:57:56,390 --> 00:57:53,099 back on when we first started you know 1127 00:57:58,730 --> 00:57:56,400 doing that show and other TV stuff I put 1128 00:58:00,349 --> 00:57:58,740 more pressure on myself because I wanted 1129 00:58:02,990 --> 00:58:00,359 to make sure that I was doing the job 1130 00:58:04,490 --> 00:58:03,000 right that people were understanding but 1131 00:58:06,170 --> 00:58:04,500 then after a while you know you get to 1132 00:58:08,030 --> 00:58:06,180 the point where 1133 00:58:10,069 --> 00:58:08,040 um and again this is different than what 1134 00:58:12,290 --> 00:58:10,079 you did because you don't have that post 1135 00:58:14,329 --> 00:58:12,300 stuff where they can clean everything up 1136 00:58:17,630 --> 00:58:14,339 with between three and four take 1137 00:58:20,510 --> 00:58:17,640 sometimes right right no so I knew that 1138 00:58:23,089 --> 00:58:20,520 I I had that buffer if you will that 1139 00:58:25,609 --> 00:58:23,099 cushion and then it just got easier and 1140 00:58:28,490 --> 00:58:25,619 easier and and as it got easier for me 1141 00:58:30,890 --> 00:58:28,500 we did fewer and fewer takes and so you 1142 00:58:33,650 --> 00:58:30,900 do get in a Groove and it gets easier 1143 00:58:35,450 --> 00:58:33,660 with time but 1144 00:58:37,849 --> 00:58:35,460 you know the other thing is you gotta 1145 00:58:40,789 --> 00:58:37,859 you also have to sort of have a I'm just 1146 00:58:43,430 --> 00:58:40,799 doing the best job I can I'm trying as 1147 00:58:46,849 --> 00:58:43,440 hard as I can and if people don't like 1148 00:58:48,589 --> 00:58:46,859 it or they don't get it you know I you 1149 00:58:51,589 --> 00:58:48,599 kind of got to let it go you know yeah 1150 00:58:53,030 --> 00:58:51,599 you know I um I learned something from 1151 00:58:57,349 --> 00:58:53,040 Jay Leno 1152 00:59:00,289 --> 00:58:57,359 and uh for for a period of uh maybe two 1153 00:59:02,210 --> 00:59:00,299 years three years uh I was out at The 1154 00:59:04,370 --> 00:59:02,220 Tonight Show about once a week because I 1155 00:59:06,049 --> 00:59:04,380 had a musical guest you know that was 1156 00:59:08,390 --> 00:59:06,059 playing on The Tonight Show sometimes 1157 00:59:10,849 --> 00:59:08,400 twice a month but I was out there a lot 1158 00:59:13,069 --> 00:59:10,859 right yeah and and I was there for the 1159 00:59:15,650 --> 00:59:13,079 tape and here's the thing man and most 1160 00:59:18,289 --> 00:59:15,660 people don't unless you've been in the 1161 00:59:19,910 --> 00:59:18,299 studio audience I'm speaking about Jay 1162 00:59:21,589 --> 00:59:19,920 Leno I can't speak for everything else 1163 00:59:26,030 --> 00:59:21,599 but I'm talking about The Tonight Show 1164 00:59:29,450 --> 00:59:26,040 with Jay Leno Jay would come out okay so 1165 00:59:32,210 --> 00:59:29,460 um the show taping is five o'clock 1166 00:59:33,890 --> 00:59:32,220 right okay so Jay would come out and he 1167 00:59:36,829 --> 00:59:33,900 would say 1168 00:59:39,770 --> 00:59:36,839 it's like three minutes until six he 1169 00:59:42,230 --> 00:59:39,780 comes out in jeans and his jean shirt 1170 00:59:44,210 --> 00:59:42,240 right he goes okay this is how it's 1171 00:59:46,010 --> 00:59:44,220 gonna go down I'm gonna go back I'm 1172 00:59:48,230 --> 00:59:46,020 gonna throw him on a suit I'm gonna be 1173 00:59:51,770 --> 00:59:48,240 back here in three minutes we're gonna 1174 00:59:53,329 --> 00:59:51,780 tape we don't cut edit you're gonna see 1175 00:59:56,150 --> 00:59:53,339 the TV commercials you're gonna see 1176 00:59:58,730 --> 00:59:56,160 everything in real time that's it in and 1177 01:00:01,069 --> 00:59:58,740 out you guys ready yes boom he walks off 1178 01:00:02,450 --> 01:00:01,079 stay and I remember the first time that 1179 01:00:04,789 --> 01:00:02,460 I saw it I'm like what do you mean 1180 01:00:07,549 --> 01:00:04,799 there's no edits what do you mean we're 1181 01:00:10,250 --> 01:00:07,559 going to see the commercials it it you 1182 01:00:13,490 --> 01:00:10,260 know and Jay I saw him say the same 1183 01:00:16,069 --> 01:00:13,500 thing every night to audiences for years 1184 01:00:19,370 --> 01:00:16,079 he goes look man 1185 01:00:22,130 --> 01:00:19,380 60 minutes or whatever right what you 1186 01:00:23,930 --> 01:00:22,140 see said right now is what you're going 1187 01:00:26,630 --> 01:00:23,940 to see tonight when you get home yeah 1188 01:00:28,430 --> 01:00:26,640 yeah that's it and and I would sit back 1189 01:00:31,849 --> 01:00:28,440 man and that's it man 1190 01:00:34,730 --> 01:00:31,859 that's it the clock's that's it you know 1191 01:00:37,190 --> 01:00:34,740 what that's that's a pro that's the guy 1192 01:00:39,890 --> 01:00:37,200 that knows what he's doing he knows how 1193 01:00:41,510 --> 01:00:39,900 to do it and he tells people you know 1194 01:00:43,250 --> 01:00:41,520 it's that old saying you know tell 1195 01:00:46,549 --> 01:00:43,260 people what you're gonna do and then 1196 01:00:48,829 --> 01:00:46,559 just do it and I mean obviously after 1197 01:00:51,289 --> 01:00:48,839 doing it for a while it gets easier and 1198 01:00:53,750 --> 01:00:51,299 easier but I think that's that's that's 1199 01:00:55,970 --> 01:00:53,760 the best way to do it and just have 1200 01:00:58,910 --> 01:00:55,980 confidence in your your material I mean 1201 01:01:01,309 --> 01:00:58,920 you're a pro come on man and just just 1202 01:01:03,289 --> 01:01:01,319 do it and the other thing is when you're 1203 01:01:05,569 --> 01:01:03,299 comfortable the people around you are 1204 01:01:08,329 --> 01:01:05,579 comfortable and 1205 01:01:11,650 --> 01:01:08,339 um you know and you put as much pressure 1206 01:01:15,289 --> 01:01:11,660 on yourself as you put on or you don't 1207 01:01:17,390 --> 01:01:15,299 and just remember you know the stuff you 1208 01:01:20,089 --> 01:01:17,400 know what you want to do you know the 1209 01:01:23,450 --> 01:01:20,099 people I mean shooting with you you and 1210 01:01:26,930 --> 01:01:23,460 I that was fun and you just do it you 1211 01:01:28,609 --> 01:01:26,940 just relax have a good time and and how 1212 01:01:35,089 --> 01:01:28,619 about that 1213 01:01:38,210 --> 01:01:35,099 great man that was awesome Hey listen 1214 01:01:40,970 --> 01:01:38,220 the whole experience was great the uh 1215 01:01:44,750 --> 01:01:40,980 the venue was was awesome 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you're 1314 01:06:34,309 --> 01:06:33,000 listening to Jimmy Church show 1315 01:06:36,109 --> 01:06:34,319 Revolution 1316 01:06:38,150 --> 01:06:36,119 this is Jimmy Church of Fade to Black 1317 01:06:40,130 --> 01:06:38,160 and you can become an official fate or 1318 01:06:44,210 --> 01:06:40,140 Not by just going to our membership 1319 01:06:46,789 --> 01:06:44,220 section at jimmychurchradio.com 1320 01:06:49,069 --> 01:06:46,799 hello this is Serena Wright Taylor from 1321 01:06:51,589 --> 01:06:49,079 conscious life Expo and you're listening 1322 01:06:53,870 --> 01:06:51,599 to fade to black with Jimmy Church who 1323 01:06:58,510 --> 01:06:53,880 holds the lucky pony record for the best 1324 01:07:00,829 --> 01:06:58,520 astrological shot since 1963. true story 1325 01:07:02,450 --> 01:07:00,839 this is Micah Hanks of the gralian 1326 01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:02,460 report and you're listening to Jimmy 1327 01:07:07,890 --> 01:07:18,910 [Music] 1328 01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:23,650 thank you 1329 01:07:28,430 --> 01:07:26,690 all right welcome back today to Black I 1330 01:07:31,309 --> 01:07:28,440 am your host Jimmy church tonight Scott 1331 01:07:33,890 --> 01:07:31,319 Walter is with us 1332 01:07:37,130 --> 01:07:33,900 what's a guest 1333 01:07:40,130 --> 01:07:37,140 season one into the Vortex and I'm not 1334 01:07:41,569 --> 01:07:40,140 sure when his episode is going to uh to 1335 01:07:45,770 --> 01:07:41,579 Premiere but 1336 01:07:48,770 --> 01:07:45,780 uh today episode one uh did Premiere 1337 01:07:49,789 --> 01:07:48,780 um and it is up and available now and 1338 01:07:50,690 --> 01:07:49,799 Scott 1339 01:07:57,650 --> 01:07:50,700 um when 1340 01:08:00,230 --> 01:07:57,660 artifacts uh and I want to put uh the 1341 01:08:02,329 --> 01:08:00,240 Kensington runestone to the side for a 1342 01:08:04,670 --> 01:08:02,339 second but 1343 01:08:09,589 --> 01:08:04,680 um for you 1344 01:08:12,589 --> 01:08:09,599 out of all of what what is the one piece 1345 01:08:15,529 --> 01:08:12,599 of evidence uh in the United States 1346 01:08:17,209 --> 01:08:15,539 um that that has been publicly revealed 1347 01:08:20,689 --> 01:08:17,219 that supports 1348 01:08:23,450 --> 01:08:20,699 um you know lost history 1349 01:08:27,289 --> 01:08:23,460 man that's a tough one I mean obviously 1350 01:08:29,930 --> 01:08:27,299 the runestone is right up there right um 1351 01:08:34,010 --> 01:08:29,940 the tucson-led artifacts are amazing the 1352 01:08:37,970 --> 01:08:34,020 bat Creek stone is incredible the um 1353 01:08:40,130 --> 01:08:37,980 Spirit Pond Rune stones are ridiculous I 1354 01:08:42,950 --> 01:08:40,140 recently looked at the Overton Stone 1355 01:08:46,249 --> 01:08:42,960 which is up in Nova Scotia but if I had 1356 01:08:48,370 --> 01:08:46,259 to pick one it would be it would be the 1357 01:08:52,010 --> 01:08:48,380 Newport Tower in uh 1358 01:08:57,789 --> 01:08:52,020 yeah yeah okay all right you know you 1359 01:09:04,490 --> 01:09:01,070 yeah it does well you know the one thing 1360 01:09:05,809 --> 01:09:04,500 about that is the bat Creek Stone and 1361 01:09:06,530 --> 01:09:05,819 there it is 1362 01:09:10,130 --> 01:09:06,540 um 1363 01:09:13,189 --> 01:09:10,140 that that was pulled out of a a native 1364 01:09:16,070 --> 01:09:13,199 burial mound a Cherokee and Cherokee 1365 01:09:18,050 --> 01:09:16,080 what is Cherokee territory now 1366 01:09:21,229 --> 01:09:18,060 um in 1889 1367 01:09:23,749 --> 01:09:21,239 and it was published in 1894 by the 1368 01:09:26,030 --> 01:09:23,759 Smithsonian institution and the truth of 1369 01:09:29,090 --> 01:09:26,040 the matter is Jim when they saw this 1370 01:09:32,090 --> 01:09:29,100 inscription they thought it was paleo 1371 01:09:34,130 --> 01:09:32,100 Cherokee some type of paleo Cherokee 1372 01:09:38,570 --> 01:09:34,140 language which they found out later they 1373 01:09:45,709 --> 01:09:42,110 um certainly not going back this far and 1374 01:09:47,570 --> 01:09:45,719 then what happened is in the 1960s a 1375 01:09:49,309 --> 01:09:47,580 woman named Henry at emerge was in the 1376 01:09:52,430 --> 01:09:49,319 Smithsonian and she found the bat Creek 1377 01:09:55,370 --> 01:09:52,440 box and she took the stone and she 1378 01:09:57,470 --> 01:09:55,380 flipped it around and she showed it to a 1379 01:10:01,010 --> 01:09:57,480 Semitic scholar and he said that's not 1380 01:10:05,930 --> 01:10:01,020 paleo Cherokee that's paleo Hebrew right 1381 01:10:08,510 --> 01:10:05,940 worst first century paleo Hebrew and but 1382 01:10:11,630 --> 01:10:08,520 you know that in itself is ridiculous 1383 01:10:14,030 --> 01:10:11,640 right it's like what first century 1384 01:10:16,070 --> 01:10:14,040 Hebrews in North America 1385 01:10:17,150 --> 01:10:16,080 but what I thought was even more 1386 01:10:19,790 --> 01:10:17,160 incredible 1387 01:10:22,610 --> 01:10:19,800 was the reaction of the Smithsonian 1388 01:10:25,970 --> 01:10:22,620 institution now this is supposed to be 1389 01:10:28,010 --> 01:10:25,980 our nation's Museum right and when 1390 01:10:30,050 --> 01:10:28,020 something like this shows up and all of 1391 01:10:32,209 --> 01:10:30,060 a sudden you have you know the top 1392 01:10:32,950 --> 01:10:32,219 Semitic scholar in the world at that 1393 01:10:37,430 --> 01:10:32,960 time 1394 01:10:39,169 --> 01:10:37,440 1970 that says this is Paleo Hebrew you 1395 01:10:41,209 --> 01:10:39,179 would think that our nation's Museum 1396 01:10:43,729 --> 01:10:41,219 would go well wait a minute this is 1397 01:10:45,530 --> 01:10:43,739 incredible we need to look into this we 1398 01:10:47,750 --> 01:10:45,540 need to take it seriously 1399 01:10:50,030 --> 01:10:47,760 but that's not what happened they 1400 01:10:51,709 --> 01:10:50,040 decided that oh this doesn't fit the 1401 01:10:54,410 --> 01:10:51,719 narrative that that you know we want 1402 01:10:57,050 --> 01:10:54,420 people to believe you know that Chris 1403 01:10:59,390 --> 01:10:57,060 was here first BS 1404 01:11:01,910 --> 01:10:59,400 um we can't have this so they did 1405 01:11:03,770 --> 01:11:01,920 everything they could to push it down uh 1406 01:11:07,850 --> 01:11:03,780 to make it go away and they're doing it 1407 01:11:10,790 --> 01:11:07,860 to this day and so I I I'm with you man 1408 01:11:12,050 --> 01:11:10,800 but I'll tell you what if they screwed 1409 01:11:15,470 --> 01:11:12,060 up on this 1410 01:11:17,870 --> 01:11:15,480 and remember Squire and Davis 1411 01:11:20,390 --> 01:11:17,880 um started digging in Native American 1412 01:11:22,850 --> 01:11:20,400 mounds and then the Smithsonian you know 1413 01:11:25,490 --> 01:11:22,860 expanded and got other field agents 1414 01:11:28,070 --> 01:11:25,500 digging up all these Mounds what else 1415 01:11:31,370 --> 01:11:28,080 did they find that they tucked away 1416 01:11:32,870 --> 01:11:31,380 remember this one they screwed up on if 1417 01:11:34,610 --> 01:11:32,880 they would have known it was paleo 1418 01:11:36,530 --> 01:11:34,620 Hebrew from the get-go do you think that 1419 01:11:40,130 --> 01:11:36,540 we it would ever have seen the light of 1420 01:11:42,130 --> 01:11:40,140 day hell no no no no no and most people 1421 01:11:46,790 --> 01:11:42,140 can't wrap their head around 1422 01:11:50,390 --> 01:11:46,800 uh what first century is it's called 2 1423 01:11:53,930 --> 01:11:50,400 000 years ago is what it is here's a 2 1424 01:11:57,410 --> 01:11:53,940 000 years you know 1500 years before 1425 01:12:01,070 --> 01:11:57,420 allegedly right uh yeah yeah go with the 1426 01:12:03,950 --> 01:12:01,080 Dogma uh anybody arriving here in North 1427 01:12:06,770 --> 01:12:03,960 America now you know today we understand 1428 01:12:09,890 --> 01:12:06,780 that it's clearly not the case but 1429 01:12:12,169 --> 01:12:09,900 that's a whole nother a whole nother 1430 01:12:13,450 --> 01:12:12,179 thing if we're talking 2 000 years ago 1431 01:12:16,850 --> 01:12:13,460 yeah 1432 01:12:17,510 --> 01:12:16,860 what about uh can I ask you this 1433 01:12:20,330 --> 01:12:17,520 um 1434 01:12:22,370 --> 01:12:20,340 it it I I know that we've talked about 1435 01:12:24,470 --> 01:12:22,380 this if there's a missing part of this 1436 01:12:27,770 --> 01:12:24,480 Stone there's another you know there's 1437 01:12:29,750 --> 01:12:27,780 other stuff that was going here right it 1438 01:12:32,110 --> 01:12:29,760 appears to be yes that's that's a good 1439 01:12:34,669 --> 01:12:32,120 good observation 1440 01:12:38,330 --> 01:12:34,679 nothing ever surfaced anything any 1441 01:12:40,490 --> 01:12:38,340 rumors about that no no in fact um I've 1442 01:12:43,250 --> 01:12:40,500 read the notes very carefully I've 1443 01:12:46,070 --> 01:12:43,260 published a lot of the notes in in my 1444 01:12:49,430 --> 01:12:46,080 akhanaten book uh that the field agent 1445 01:12:51,229 --> 01:12:49,440 John Emmert wrote when he uh excavated 1446 01:12:53,330 --> 01:12:51,239 that mound and I have to tell you he did 1447 01:12:57,890 --> 01:12:53,340 a hell of a good job 1448 01:12:59,090 --> 01:12:57,900 um he he took copious no notes but 1449 01:13:01,189 --> 01:12:59,100 here's something else that's interesting 1450 01:13:04,310 --> 01:13:01,199 not only and you gotta remember 1451 01:13:07,610 --> 01:13:04,320 something that artifact was found inside 1452 01:13:10,550 --> 01:13:07,620 a sacred bundle that was behind the 1453 01:13:13,070 --> 01:13:10,560 skull of the one person of nine bodies 1454 01:13:14,990 --> 01:13:13,080 that were in this mound the only one 1455 01:13:17,090 --> 01:13:15,000 with its head to the South which is 1456 01:13:20,209 --> 01:13:17,100 interesting because that's consistent 1457 01:13:22,850 --> 01:13:20,219 with the we see the first century 1458 01:13:25,790 --> 01:13:22,860 Hebrews Jesus and Mary Magdalene and 1459 01:13:27,830 --> 01:13:25,800 John the Baptist their sect had that 1460 01:13:30,290 --> 01:13:27,840 same burial practice where they buried 1461 01:13:33,770 --> 01:13:30,300 the deceased with their heads to the 1462 01:13:35,390 --> 01:13:33,780 South so what what what does that mean 1463 01:13:37,189 --> 01:13:35,400 that's another piece of evidence that 1464 01:13:38,570 --> 01:13:37,199 most people are not aware of that's 1465 01:13:41,149 --> 01:13:38,580 consistent with this thing being 1466 01:13:43,430 --> 01:13:41,159 absolutely authentic and genuine and it 1467 01:13:46,370 --> 01:13:43,440 also begs the question who is this dude 1468 01:13:49,070 --> 01:13:46,380 right who is this person that's buried 1469 01:13:51,770 --> 01:13:49,080 in this mound that has this this you 1470 01:13:54,590 --> 01:13:51,780 know amazing Stone under their skull was 1471 01:13:57,169 --> 01:13:54,600 it somebody that came over from the old 1472 01:13:59,630 --> 01:13:57,179 world and died here was it somebody that 1473 01:14:03,830 --> 01:13:59,640 came over here and taught an indigenous 1474 01:14:05,930 --> 01:14:03,840 person who died and it's that skull 1475 01:14:07,790 --> 01:14:05,940 um you know did somebody go over and 1476 01:14:09,830 --> 01:14:07,800 bring them back I mean you know there's 1477 01:14:13,310 --> 01:14:09,840 all kinds of questions here but it 1478 01:14:15,950 --> 01:14:13,320 clearly proves to me that the Hebrews 1479 01:14:18,530 --> 01:14:15,960 the Hebrews were here or their influence 1480 01:14:21,890 --> 01:14:18,540 was here going all the way back back to 1481 01:14:24,950 --> 01:14:21,900 the time of Jesus Mary and and the rest 1482 01:14:27,950 --> 01:14:24,960 of the essene what what what is 1483 01:14:31,010 --> 01:14:27,960 inscribed here in in this ancient Hebrew 1484 01:14:34,970 --> 01:14:31,020 what what is actually said well the uh 1485 01:14:38,750 --> 01:14:34,980 translation the translation uh that I 1486 01:14:40,729 --> 01:14:38,760 understand is it says for the judeans 1487 01:14:43,310 --> 01:14:40,739 and um 1488 01:14:45,890 --> 01:14:43,320 you know there might be more to that 1489 01:14:47,030 --> 01:14:45,900 inscription but my understanding is it 1490 01:14:50,149 --> 01:14:47,040 says 1491 01:14:53,810 --> 01:14:50,159 for the Jews for the judeans 1492 01:14:56,630 --> 01:14:53,820 and the burial mound uh it's an 1493 01:14:59,090 --> 01:14:56,640 indigenous burial mound it is it was 1494 01:15:02,030 --> 01:14:59,100 actually part of three miles a complex 1495 01:15:04,130 --> 01:15:02,040 of three they're called the bat Creek uh 1496 01:15:07,250 --> 01:15:04,140 complex and this was in Mound number 1497 01:15:09,709 --> 01:15:07,260 three and you know when John emmer did 1498 01:15:11,689 --> 01:15:09,719 the excavation I didn't finish this 1499 01:15:13,310 --> 01:15:11,699 point but in addition to the other 1500 01:15:15,410 --> 01:15:13,320 artifacts that we're not talking about 1501 01:15:18,530 --> 01:15:15,420 that were found which included two 1502 01:15:21,830 --> 01:15:18,540 copper bracelets a bone all for punching 1503 01:15:24,590 --> 01:15:21,840 holes in leather uh and some red ocher 1504 01:15:27,410 --> 01:15:24,600 stones for face paint but he also 1505 01:15:31,130 --> 01:15:27,420 collected the lower jaw of the 1506 01:15:33,830 --> 01:15:31,140 individual and that has gone missing and 1507 01:15:35,570 --> 01:15:33,840 I think this is my own speculation but I 1508 01:15:37,669 --> 01:15:35,580 think the reason that it went missing is 1509 01:15:39,229 --> 01:15:37,679 because once they figured out that this 1510 01:15:40,970 --> 01:15:39,239 thing was not what they thought it was 1511 01:15:44,330 --> 01:15:40,980 they sure as hell aren't going to let 1512 01:15:46,610 --> 01:15:44,340 anybody do any DNA or c14 testing on 1513 01:15:48,649 --> 01:15:46,620 these human remains and that begs the 1514 01:15:50,810 --> 01:15:48,659 question where are they now the 1515 01:15:52,550 --> 01:15:50,820 Smithsonian Institution 1516 01:15:55,189 --> 01:15:52,560 um when I asked them said well they've 1517 01:15:57,229 --> 01:15:55,199 been misplaced you know decades ago 1518 01:16:00,410 --> 01:15:57,239 things weren't cataloged as well as they 1519 01:16:03,290 --> 01:16:00,420 are now and blah blah blah and just you 1520 01:16:06,169 --> 01:16:03,300 know shut the hell up that's all Bs they 1521 01:16:07,970 --> 01:16:06,179 they made them disappear and who who 1522 01:16:09,970 --> 01:16:07,980 knows what else they've made disappear 1523 01:16:13,510 --> 01:16:09,980 it's um 1524 01:16:15,950 --> 01:16:13,520 I don't trust them oh well 1525 01:16:19,070 --> 01:16:15,960 I don't think anybody does at this point 1526 01:16:21,229 --> 01:16:19,080 but let me ask you uh two two questions 1527 01:16:24,410 --> 01:16:21,239 first one 1528 01:16:28,490 --> 01:16:24,420 um okay so if this is an early form of 1529 01:16:32,390 --> 01:16:28,500 Hebrew dated to the First Century A.D 1530 01:16:33,590 --> 01:16:32,400 how did it get here and when 1531 01:16:35,630 --> 01:16:33,600 well 1532 01:16:37,669 --> 01:16:35,640 um that's a great question but you know 1533 01:16:39,890 --> 01:16:37,679 Jim let's let's put it this way let's 1534 01:16:43,850 --> 01:16:39,900 just do this for a second let's set the 1535 01:16:47,870 --> 01:16:43,860 Back Creek Stone aside for just a second 1536 01:16:51,350 --> 01:16:47,880 if whoever came here or how whatever the 1537 01:16:53,930 --> 01:16:51,360 scenario was that led this Palo Hebrew 1538 01:16:56,990 --> 01:16:53,940 scription to end up in a Native American 1539 01:16:59,149 --> 01:16:57,000 burial mountain in North America you 1540 01:17:01,550 --> 01:16:59,159 would think that there should be some 1541 01:17:03,890 --> 01:17:01,560 other artifacts this can't be just some 1542 01:17:05,810 --> 01:17:03,900 dude who's you know paddle across in the 1543 01:17:07,729 --> 01:17:05,820 canoe by himself right 1544 01:17:09,950 --> 01:17:07,739 well the answer to that question is 1545 01:17:13,550 --> 01:17:09,960 there are other artifacts you can look 1546 01:17:16,070 --> 01:17:13,560 up the Newark holy Stones there are at 1547 01:17:18,950 --> 01:17:16,080 least two more stones that have Hebrew 1548 01:17:22,430 --> 01:17:18,960 carvings on them and right now I'm 1549 01:17:23,990 --> 01:17:22,440 working on a huge project that uh is 1550 01:17:27,169 --> 01:17:24,000 certainly going to end up in a book and 1551 01:17:29,750 --> 01:17:27,179 probably on uh um you know a television 1552 01:17:31,189 --> 01:17:29,760 or cable program at some point 1553 01:17:33,350 --> 01:17:31,199 um we're talking with people right now 1554 01:17:34,390 --> 01:17:33,360 but this whole story about the cremona 1555 01:17:38,090 --> 01:17:34,400 document 1556 01:17:39,590 --> 01:17:38,100 is absolutely insane now I have 1557 01:17:41,990 --> 01:17:39,600 published 1558 01:17:43,370 --> 01:17:42,000 um part of the story a couple of other 1559 01:17:46,970 --> 01:17:43,380 people have written about it but 1560 01:17:48,790 --> 01:17:46,980 essentially the story is is that in the 1561 01:17:52,790 --> 01:17:48,800 late 12th century 1562 01:17:54,470 --> 01:17:52,800 flotilla of six Templar ships headed by 1563 01:17:55,669 --> 01:17:54,480 a knight by the name of Sir Ralph the 1564 01:17:58,729 --> 01:17:55,679 subtly 1565 01:18:01,610 --> 01:17:58,739 came over here to North America 1566 01:18:03,970 --> 01:18:01,620 in the late 12th century 1567 01:18:05,689 --> 01:18:03,980 to recover 1568 01:18:09,410 --> 01:18:05,699 Scrolls 1569 01:18:13,430 --> 01:18:09,420 that date back to the first century and 1570 01:18:15,709 --> 01:18:13,440 back as far as we think 500 BC that had 1571 01:18:19,570 --> 01:18:15,719 been hidden over here 1572 01:18:22,370 --> 01:18:19,580 in North America okay okay 1573 01:18:25,430 --> 01:18:22,380 stop right there okay because the dating 1574 01:18:27,950 --> 01:18:25,440 is the same uh these scrolls are they 1575 01:18:33,189 --> 01:18:27,960 are they from Jerusalem are they Hebrew 1576 01:18:36,410 --> 01:18:33,199 what's where where's their origin 1577 01:18:38,450 --> 01:18:36,420 the basic story is is that when the 1578 01:18:41,689 --> 01:18:38,460 Romans attacked 1579 01:18:44,330 --> 01:18:41,699 um the Jews in in Jerusalem uh in the 1580 01:18:46,729 --> 01:18:44,340 holy land they fled right that's the 1581 01:18:49,669 --> 01:18:46,739 diaspora that's when everybody took off 1582 01:18:51,530 --> 01:18:49,679 the question is where did they go 1583 01:18:53,630 --> 01:18:51,540 um some of those people we think came 1584 01:18:57,169 --> 01:18:53,640 over here now when you look at it 1585 01:18:59,510 --> 01:18:57,179 historically you have an event that 1586 01:19:01,130 --> 01:18:59,520 certainly motivated people to get the 1587 01:19:03,530 --> 01:19:01,140 heck out of Dodge or get out of 1588 01:19:05,090 --> 01:19:03,540 Jerusalem right and and we don't know 1589 01:19:07,070 --> 01:19:05,100 where they went 1590 01:19:10,430 --> 01:19:07,080 um I'm not suggesting that they all came 1591 01:19:12,950 --> 01:19:10,440 over to America but they had material 1592 01:19:16,010 --> 01:19:12,960 that other people wanted 1593 01:19:17,630 --> 01:19:16,020 clearly they did and they brought them 1594 01:19:20,090 --> 01:19:17,640 over here now when did they bring them 1595 01:19:22,490 --> 01:19:20,100 over we don't know but the documents 1596 01:19:24,770 --> 01:19:22,500 that were recovered because to subtly 1597 01:19:26,930 --> 01:19:24,780 recovered the documents and brought them 1598 01:19:28,550 --> 01:19:26,940 back to Europe and there's a detailed 1599 01:19:33,310 --> 01:19:28,560 list in fact I was just writing about 1600 01:19:36,830 --> 01:19:33,320 them in the book today which includes 1601 01:19:39,830 --> 01:19:36,840 the Gospel of Mary 1602 01:19:42,709 --> 01:19:39,840 um the marriage document of James the 1603 01:19:45,649 --> 01:19:42,719 brother of Jesus's daughter Esther the 1604 01:19:48,470 --> 01:19:45,659 marriage between her and her husband and 1605 01:19:52,070 --> 01:19:48,480 the marriage document of Jesus and Mary 1606 01:19:53,770 --> 01:19:52,080 Magdalene now okay so if 1607 01:19:58,189 --> 01:19:53,780 if 1608 01:19:59,709 --> 01:19:58,199 that's 12th century when looking for 1609 01:20:02,930 --> 01:19:59,719 these fruits 1610 01:20:06,070 --> 01:20:02,940 right right okay so that's that's what 1611 01:20:10,370 --> 01:20:06,080 he but for anything 1612 01:20:13,310 --> 01:20:10,380 what transoceanic culture it's one thing 1613 01:20:15,350 --> 01:20:13,320 to be a Phoenician or an Egyptian you 1614 01:20:18,470 --> 01:20:15,360 know cruising around you know the 1615 01:20:20,750 --> 01:20:18,480 shorelines of the uh uh of the 1616 01:20:24,050 --> 01:20:20,760 Mediterranean it's a whole other thing 1617 01:20:26,630 --> 01:20:24,060 to exit The Straits of Gibraltar and 1618 01:20:30,490 --> 01:20:26,640 head out across the Atlantic that's a 1619 01:20:33,590 --> 01:20:30,500 whole nother type of oceanic voyage 1620 01:20:36,590 --> 01:20:33,600 did the did the Phoenicians have that 1621 01:20:38,149 --> 01:20:36,600 ability to cross the Atlantic at year 1622 01:20:41,090 --> 01:20:38,159 zero 1623 01:20:42,229 --> 01:20:41,100 um the answer is there's no doubt in my 1624 01:20:44,390 --> 01:20:42,239 mind 1625 01:20:47,149 --> 01:20:44,400 um no doubt at all because the evidence 1626 01:20:48,530 --> 01:20:47,159 is all over this continent and and if 1627 01:20:51,050 --> 01:20:48,540 the evidence is here that they were 1628 01:20:52,970 --> 01:20:51,060 doing it going back that that far and 1629 01:20:54,950 --> 01:20:52,980 farther then obviously they had the 1630 01:20:56,930 --> 01:20:54,960 technology right 1631 01:20:58,370 --> 01:20:56,940 um and and it's you know I gotta tell 1632 01:21:00,530 --> 01:20:58,380 you I've talked to people I've 1633 01:21:02,689 --> 01:21:00,540 interviewed people we've had people on 1634 01:21:05,209 --> 01:21:02,699 the you know on America on Earth that 1635 01:21:07,310 --> 01:21:05,219 talked about actually sailing in the 1636 01:21:08,810 --> 01:21:07,320 North Atlantic now there are other 1637 01:21:11,330 --> 01:21:08,820 routes that will take you to South 1638 01:21:14,570 --> 01:21:11,340 America and to the lower part of North 1639 01:21:16,790 --> 01:21:14,580 America but the northern route is really 1640 01:21:19,010 --> 01:21:16,800 not that difficult I mean you know 1641 01:21:21,050 --> 01:21:19,020 having said that there's weather people 1642 01:21:22,910 --> 01:21:21,060 died all the time on the on on the open 1643 01:21:25,669 --> 01:21:22,920 ocean it's nothing to screw around with 1644 01:21:28,070 --> 01:21:25,679 but what I've been told is that you 1645 01:21:31,010 --> 01:21:28,080 could leave Scotland right 1646 01:21:35,630 --> 01:21:31,020 you can go to the orkneys shetlands the 1647 01:21:37,270 --> 01:21:35,640 Pharaohs rock all Iceland Greenland 1648 01:21:41,810 --> 01:21:37,280 Baffin Island 1649 01:21:43,910 --> 01:21:41,820 Newfoundland and Russia and you can get 1650 01:21:46,010 --> 01:21:43,920 halfway across 1651 01:21:48,290 --> 01:21:46,020 and you're looking behind you can see 1652 01:21:50,570 --> 01:21:48,300 where you left and you get to a point 1653 01:21:54,610 --> 01:21:50,580 where you can see where you're going in 1654 01:22:00,290 --> 01:21:56,990 right right right you're not navigating 1655 01:22:02,090 --> 01:22:00,300 with the Stars right now that's if it's 1656 01:22:04,729 --> 01:22:02,100 clear of course and it's not going to be 1657 01:22:06,770 --> 01:22:04,739 clear all the time but theoretically you 1658 01:22:08,689 --> 01:22:06,780 could you could make that Voyage to 1659 01:22:10,850 --> 01:22:08,699 North America from Europe and you 1660 01:22:13,850 --> 01:22:10,860 wouldn't be uh you know you wouldn't 1661 01:22:16,070 --> 01:22:13,860 lose sight of land the entire voyage 1662 01:22:18,830 --> 01:22:16,080 okay 1663 01:22:23,570 --> 01:22:18,840 um now I said the Phoenicians and the 1664 01:22:26,930 --> 01:22:23,580 Phoenicians uh predated uh the uh yeah 1665 01:22:29,149 --> 01:22:26,940 uh all of that by by you know quite a 1666 01:22:32,350 --> 01:22:29,159 few centuries the problem that I have 1667 01:22:36,169 --> 01:22:32,360 with the Egyptian uh part of this play 1668 01:22:38,450 --> 01:22:36,179 is that it's one thing to cruise up and 1669 01:22:40,610 --> 01:22:38,460 down the Nile River right because you've 1670 01:22:42,950 --> 01:22:40,620 got current you don't have to be a 1671 01:22:45,350 --> 01:22:42,960 sailor you just got to be able to keep 1672 01:22:47,149 --> 01:22:45,360 your boat from hitting the shore right 1673 01:22:49,010 --> 01:22:47,159 you just keep it in the middle oh yeah 1674 01:22:51,410 --> 01:22:49,020 that's easy to say palette let me tell 1675 01:22:53,689 --> 01:22:51,420 you lot tougher on the you know even 1676 01:22:56,390 --> 01:22:53,699 navigate even navigating on lakes and 1677 01:22:57,830 --> 01:22:56,400 rivers you have to really know what 1678 01:22:59,750 --> 01:22:57,840 you're doing you have to be very clear 1679 01:23:02,870 --> 01:22:59,760 but it's dangerous you know what I'm 1680 01:23:05,149 --> 01:23:02,880 saying is that the Nile currents which 1681 01:23:07,850 --> 01:23:05,159 go from south to North right and empty 1682 01:23:08,750 --> 01:23:07,860 in the Mediterranean you don't have to 1683 01:23:10,550 --> 01:23:08,760 sail 1684 01:23:12,130 --> 01:23:10,560 you're just pointing your boat you're 1685 01:23:15,649 --> 01:23:12,140 going with the current of the river 1686 01:23:17,450 --> 01:23:15,659 coming back and and heading south well 1687 01:23:19,729 --> 01:23:17,460 now you're going against the current so 1688 01:23:21,530 --> 01:23:19,739 you got to crank up a sail and stuff but 1689 01:23:24,770 --> 01:23:21,540 you're only navigating the Nile River 1690 01:23:26,930 --> 01:23:24,780 you don't have to right you you you 1691 01:23:28,490 --> 01:23:26,940 you're not going to go left or right 1692 01:23:32,510 --> 01:23:28,500 you're just always going to go straight 1693 01:23:34,550 --> 01:23:32,520 right okay that's one thing that's why 1694 01:23:36,590 --> 01:23:34,560 um getting out in into the Mediterranean 1695 01:23:39,590 --> 01:23:36,600 I think the Egyptians really messed 1696 01:23:41,750 --> 01:23:39,600 around with that a whole lot and and at 1697 01:23:44,750 --> 01:23:41,760 least that's what 1698 01:23:46,850 --> 01:23:44,760 um the Dogma will say but then we have 1699 01:23:48,709 --> 01:23:46,860 issues with Australia we have issues 1700 01:23:50,390 --> 01:23:48,719 here in the United States that are 1701 01:23:54,890 --> 01:23:50,400 showing 1702 01:23:57,709 --> 01:23:54,900 um uh Egyptian contact right so is is it 1703 01:24:01,430 --> 01:23:57,719 possible that the Egyptians and the 1704 01:24:04,850 --> 01:24:01,440 Phoenicians uh maybe even the Greeks uh 1705 01:24:07,310 --> 01:24:04,860 possibly the Romans were they all at 1706 01:24:10,490 --> 01:24:07,320 that point trans-oceanic cultures at 1707 01:24:14,330 --> 01:24:10,500 around year zero 500 BC to year zero 1708 01:24:16,310 --> 01:24:14,340 well I mean I I think the answer is is 1709 01:24:18,110 --> 01:24:16,320 summer all of them had to have because 1710 01:24:20,689 --> 01:24:18,120 we see the evidence that they came here 1711 01:24:23,630 --> 01:24:20,699 right right and you know the other thing 1712 01:24:25,910 --> 01:24:23,640 is is that a lack of evidence 1713 01:24:28,850 --> 01:24:25,920 um is proof of nothing right it doesn't 1714 01:24:32,209 --> 01:24:28,860 prove just because we don't have you 1715 01:24:33,890 --> 01:24:32,219 know documents or or ledgers that talk 1716 01:24:36,410 --> 01:24:33,900 about you know 1717 01:24:38,270 --> 01:24:36,420 um two thousand years ago 2500 years ago 1718 01:24:40,550 --> 01:24:38,280 them coming over here but you got to 1719 01:24:43,010 --> 01:24:40,560 remember something when if you could 1720 01:24:44,990 --> 01:24:43,020 come over to North or South America or 1721 01:24:49,250 --> 01:24:45,000 Central America for that matter 1722 01:24:52,250 --> 01:24:49,260 and you were able to get Furs precious 1723 01:24:55,209 --> 01:24:52,260 metals wood 1724 01:24:58,010 --> 01:24:55,219 um all kinds of resources plants food 1725 01:25:01,189 --> 01:24:58,020 drugs I mean 1726 01:25:04,189 --> 01:25:01,199 um you know it was it was 1727 01:25:06,830 --> 01:25:04,199 I mean it was just a paradise of riches 1728 01:25:07,850 --> 01:25:06,840 over here and if you had a way to get 1729 01:25:10,130 --> 01:25:07,860 over here 1730 01:25:12,410 --> 01:25:10,140 and you were able to get these resources 1731 01:25:14,090 --> 01:25:12,420 that you couldn't get back in in you 1732 01:25:16,130 --> 01:25:14,100 know where you came from and then you 1733 01:25:18,890 --> 01:25:16,140 bring this stuff people are going to pay 1734 01:25:20,689 --> 01:25:18,900 you all kinds of money it goes back to 1735 01:25:23,209 --> 01:25:20,699 that old adage are you going to tell 1736 01:25:25,430 --> 01:25:23,219 somebody your your best fishing spot or 1737 01:25:27,530 --> 01:25:25,440 your your favorite hunting spot that you 1738 01:25:29,630 --> 01:25:27,540 always get a buck hell no you're going 1739 01:25:32,450 --> 01:25:29,640 to keep your mouth shut so this would 1740 01:25:34,729 --> 01:25:32,460 have been very sacred information and 1741 01:25:36,229 --> 01:25:34,739 very secret information and the fact 1742 01:25:38,450 --> 01:25:36,239 that we don't have a lot of Records 1743 01:25:42,189 --> 01:25:38,460 about it isn't 1744 01:25:45,610 --> 01:25:42,199 um I think it should be expected right 1745 01:25:48,350 --> 01:25:45,620 that's what I think I mean 1746 01:25:51,410 --> 01:25:48,360 let me give you some obvious things when 1747 01:25:55,130 --> 01:25:51,420 people bring up that point 1748 01:25:56,930 --> 01:25:55,140 um and that the lack of Records then 1749 01:25:59,990 --> 01:25:56,940 therefore supports that it didn't happen 1750 01:26:01,850 --> 01:26:00,000 right this is where I call BS yeah let 1751 01:26:05,870 --> 01:26:01,860 me give you some obvious stuff 1752 01:26:07,090 --> 01:26:05,880 just with Egypt where we're going back 5 1753 01:26:10,149 --> 01:26:07,100 000 years 1754 01:26:13,629 --> 01:26:10,159 every single and I mean this 1755 01:26:15,890 --> 01:26:13,639 every single Temple site 1756 01:26:18,890 --> 01:26:15,900 included of course a Great Pyramid in 1757 01:26:22,550 --> 01:26:18,900 Giza and everything every single Temple 1758 01:26:26,330 --> 01:26:22,560 site of which there are hundreds all 1759 01:26:29,510 --> 01:26:26,340 over Egypt there is not one document 1760 01:26:32,390 --> 01:26:29,520 supporting how it was done the 1761 01:26:35,149 --> 01:26:32,400 engineering or anything there isn't it 1762 01:26:36,470 --> 01:26:35,159 doesn't exist for anything so what are 1763 01:26:37,570 --> 01:26:36,480 you telling me that they didn't get 1764 01:26:40,970 --> 01:26:37,580 built 1765 01:26:43,189 --> 01:26:40,980 Jim you just made the same point and 1766 01:26:46,070 --> 01:26:43,199 it's a brilliant point right it's like 1767 01:26:47,870 --> 01:26:46,080 okay here's this pyramid here but we 1768 01:26:49,129 --> 01:26:47,880 don't have any record of who built it we 1769 01:26:51,649 --> 01:26:49,139 don't know when they built it we don't 1770 01:26:53,930 --> 01:26:51,659 know how they built it so it can't be 1771 01:26:56,270 --> 01:26:53,940 right I mean that's what they're saying 1772 01:26:58,790 --> 01:26:56,280 when they look at things like bat Creek 1773 01:27:00,470 --> 01:26:58,800 Stone runestone the tower all the stuff 1774 01:27:02,750 --> 01:27:00,480 that we have over here there's nothing 1775 01:27:04,910 --> 01:27:02,760 to see here folks because we can't 1776 01:27:07,790 --> 01:27:04,920 figure it out and that's really what's 1777 01:27:11,030 --> 01:27:07,800 going on okay a lot of these academics 1778 01:27:13,550 --> 01:27:11,040 that I have dealt with are just chicken 1779 01:27:16,129 --> 01:27:13,560 they and they just give up you know what 1780 01:27:18,830 --> 01:27:16,139 there's there's no record here we can't 1781 01:27:20,270 --> 01:27:18,840 do it the way that we want to do it and 1782 01:27:22,189 --> 01:27:20,280 we're not going to be able to reach a 1783 01:27:26,770 --> 01:27:22,199 consensus because none of us can figure 1784 01:27:30,290 --> 01:27:26,780 it out so it can't be be and I I I I I 1785 01:27:32,450 --> 01:27:30,300 mean I just to me this is I don't even 1786 01:27:34,910 --> 01:27:32,460 know how to describe it I without using 1787 01:27:39,129 --> 01:27:34,920 uh colorful language but it's just 1788 01:27:41,570 --> 01:27:39,139 frankly BS and you know 1789 01:27:44,030 --> 01:27:41,580 many of these people that I interact 1790 01:27:46,250 --> 01:27:44,040 with and I don't want to you know make 1791 01:27:48,530 --> 01:27:46,260 it sound like you know Academia is is 1792 01:27:50,750 --> 01:27:48,540 completely fraudulent it's not it's 1793 01:27:53,390 --> 01:27:50,760 wonderful and and all these disciplines 1794 01:27:55,910 --> 01:27:53,400 are legitimate disciplines but these are 1795 01:27:57,830 --> 01:27:55,920 people that are coming after me when I 1796 01:28:00,229 --> 01:27:57,840 talk about these artifacts and about the 1797 01:28:01,910 --> 01:28:00,239 fact that this history happened and they 1798 01:28:03,350 --> 01:28:01,920 say to me that you're not being 1799 01:28:07,129 --> 01:28:03,360 scientific 1800 01:28:09,229 --> 01:28:07,139 I wrote a lab okay I'm a geologist a 1801 01:28:11,450 --> 01:28:09,239 forensic geologist I've done a lot of 1802 01:28:13,729 --> 01:28:11,460 pretty interesting work but I'm talking 1803 01:28:15,470 --> 01:28:13,739 about people that come from disciplines 1804 01:28:18,649 --> 01:28:15,480 like history 1805 01:28:20,990 --> 01:28:18,659 anthropology no disrespect but 1806 01:28:22,610 --> 01:28:21,000 archeology is a soft science it's not a 1807 01:28:26,470 --> 01:28:22,620 hard science 1808 01:28:29,689 --> 01:28:26,480 um you know language runology these are 1809 01:28:33,470 --> 01:28:29,699 Humanity's disciplines okay 1810 01:28:36,050 --> 01:28:33,480 they're not hard science so why are they 1811 01:28:38,629 --> 01:28:36,060 telling me somebody who runs a lab and 1812 01:28:40,629 --> 01:28:38,639 does science all day every day that I 1813 01:28:43,070 --> 01:28:40,639 don't know what I'm doing 1814 01:28:44,290 --> 01:28:43,080 seriously yeah that's right that's right 1815 01:28:48,169 --> 01:28:44,300 well 1816 01:28:49,970 --> 01:28:48,179 I I find it incredible really and and 1817 01:28:52,490 --> 01:28:49,980 they're the ones that are you know 1818 01:28:55,910 --> 01:28:52,500 Wikipedia defers to them 1819 01:28:58,669 --> 01:28:55,920 see I mean it's okay here's here's the 1820 01:29:01,250 --> 01:28:58,679 thing including the Kensington Rune 1821 01:29:04,930 --> 01:29:01,260 Stone which is one of the most studied 1822 01:29:08,149 --> 01:29:04,940 artifacts ever right I mean that thing 1823 01:29:09,709 --> 01:29:08,159 uh northern Europe different countries 1824 01:29:10,970 --> 01:29:09,719 here 1825 01:29:14,450 --> 01:29:10,980 um that thing has been completely 1826 01:29:17,450 --> 01:29:14,460 studied but uh any anything else that is 1827 01:29:19,550 --> 01:29:17,460 some out of place artifact it's it's a 1828 01:29:25,490 --> 01:29:19,560 hoax somebody made it it's this it's 1829 01:29:28,850 --> 01:29:25,500 that it's it's crazy to me how um if uh 1830 01:29:31,990 --> 01:29:28,860 if if you look just like the back reach 1831 01:29:38,470 --> 01:29:32,000 stone or Kensington if you look at that 1832 01:29:41,649 --> 01:29:38,480 tell me who had the knowledge in 1850 1833 01:29:45,470 --> 01:29:41,659 to to carve 1834 01:29:47,390 --> 01:29:45,480 those letters that the the the knowledge 1835 01:29:51,470 --> 01:29:47,400 of the language the knowledge of that 1836 01:29:55,250 --> 01:29:51,480 who we didn't crack hieroglyphics in 1837 01:29:57,250 --> 01:29:55,260 Egypt until 1830. until the Rosetta 1838 01:30:00,770 --> 01:29:57,260 Stone was rosettes 1839 01:30:04,370 --> 01:30:00,780 so don't tell me that somebody knew 1840 01:30:07,850 --> 01:30:04,380 ancient Hebrew you know for the first 1841 01:30:10,790 --> 01:30:07,860 century uh just crank this stuff out no 1842 01:30:14,209 --> 01:30:10,800 no I it and the same thing with the King 1843 01:30:17,149 --> 01:30:14,219 uh the Kensington runestone yeah well 1844 01:30:18,649 --> 01:30:17,159 you know what Jim it's it's 1845 01:30:22,070 --> 01:30:18,659 it's 1846 01:30:24,590 --> 01:30:22,080 um I could teach a college course just 1847 01:30:27,770 --> 01:30:24,600 on the Kensington runestone and not just 1848 01:30:29,629 --> 01:30:27,780 on the geology on the inscription the 1849 01:30:32,810 --> 01:30:29,639 runes the dialect the grammar the dating 1850 01:30:35,930 --> 01:30:32,820 the history the Templars what was going 1851 01:30:38,330 --> 01:30:35,940 on in 1898 when it was found but you can 1852 01:30:41,950 --> 01:30:38,340 also talk about the about the the 1853 01:30:45,410 --> 01:30:41,960 cultural impact about the academic 1854 01:30:46,850 --> 01:30:45,420 situation you know through time and you 1855 01:30:48,470 --> 01:30:46,860 know you said something that sort of 1856 01:30:50,689 --> 01:30:48,480 made me chuckle to myself he said the 1857 01:30:52,970 --> 01:30:50,699 Kinsey and the runestone is one of the 1858 01:30:55,189 --> 01:30:52,980 most studied artifacts and the truth of 1859 01:30:57,890 --> 01:30:55,199 the matter is it has not been studied 1860 01:31:00,229 --> 01:30:57,900 because what happened is most of these 1861 01:31:01,669 --> 01:31:00,239 academics that looked at it did not 1862 01:31:03,410 --> 01:31:01,679 understand what they were looking at 1863 01:31:04,810 --> 01:31:03,420 they couldn't figure out what the rooms 1864 01:31:08,930 --> 01:31:04,820 were 1865 01:31:10,790 --> 01:31:08,940 uh and so instead of admitting that and 1866 01:31:12,590 --> 01:31:10,800 saying you know what there's stuff on 1867 01:31:14,990 --> 01:31:12,600 here that we just don't know 1868 01:31:16,910 --> 01:31:15,000 they couldn't do it so what what do they 1869 01:31:18,590 --> 01:31:16,920 do is they make it go away they don't 1870 01:31:20,209 --> 01:31:18,600 want to run the risk of looking like 1871 01:31:22,850 --> 01:31:20,219 they're not the smartest person in the 1872 01:31:25,370 --> 01:31:22,860 room and so they claim it's a hoax and 1873 01:31:26,810 --> 01:31:25,380 that's an easy way out and I just find 1874 01:31:30,310 --> 01:31:26,820 that to be 1875 01:31:36,590 --> 01:31:32,990 you know what way to go and it's just 1876 01:31:40,310 --> 01:31:36,600 not acceptable and but here's the thing 1877 01:31:43,370 --> 01:31:40,320 you know the rock told me the rock told 1878 01:31:46,430 --> 01:31:43,380 me that it was authentic right I 1879 01:31:48,709 --> 01:31:46,440 listened to the Rock because I trust 1880 01:31:53,270 --> 01:31:48,719 rocks 1881 01:31:56,330 --> 01:31:53,280 agendas they don't have egos they just 1882 01:31:58,129 --> 01:31:56,340 are I don't trust some people 1883 01:32:00,470 --> 01:31:58,139 and once the rock told me it was real 1884 01:32:03,229 --> 01:32:00,480 then all the other things that go with 1885 01:32:05,930 --> 01:32:03,239 it like somebody carved it they came 1886 01:32:08,330 --> 01:32:05,940 from some place and they came here for 1887 01:32:10,790 --> 01:32:08,340 some reason these things all have got to 1888 01:32:12,350 --> 01:32:10,800 be true and over the course of all these 1889 01:32:14,629 --> 01:32:12,360 years we have answered all those 1890 01:32:16,970 --> 01:32:14,639 questions and it all fits beautifully 1891 01:32:19,910 --> 01:32:16,980 and that's when you know you've reached 1892 01:32:22,250 --> 01:32:19,920 the right conclusion but why is it that 1893 01:32:24,229 --> 01:32:22,260 Academia doesn't seem interested they 1894 01:32:26,330 --> 01:32:24,239 don't seem to care and it's not about 1895 01:32:29,470 --> 01:32:26,340 proving them wrong look we all make 1896 01:32:32,330 --> 01:32:29,480 mistakes I make mistakes 1897 01:32:34,189 --> 01:32:32,340 this the history behind this and the 1898 01:32:37,370 --> 01:32:34,199 truth is more important than your 1899 01:32:39,830 --> 01:32:37,380 fragile ego so put your side and let's 1900 01:32:43,189 --> 01:32:39,840 have a party because if you if you wake 1901 01:32:46,070 --> 01:32:43,199 up and you realize what is at stake here 1902 01:32:49,790 --> 01:32:46,080 you could make your whole career right 1903 01:32:51,410 --> 01:32:49,800 yeah I've got to take a break so let's 1904 01:32:53,570 --> 01:32:51,420 get that in our guest site the one and 1905 01:32:55,990 --> 01:32:53,580 only Scott Walter 1906 01:32:58,490 --> 01:32:56,000 Scott don't play we're gonna continue 1907 01:33:01,270 --> 01:32:58,500 right after this short break this is 1908 01:33:10,330 --> 01:33:01,280 Fade to Black stay with us 1909 01:33:20,290 --> 01:33:11,910 thank you 1910 01:33:22,910 --> 01:33:20,300 [Music] 1911 01:33:26,250 --> 01:33:22,920 we're out here we listened to Jimmy 1912 01:33:27,710 --> 01:33:26,260 Church you're listening to Fade to Black 1913 01:33:30,290 --> 01:33:27,720 [Applause] 1914 01:33:36,229 --> 01:33:30,300 [Music] 1915 01:33:47,220 --> 01:33:37,670 is 1916 01:33:51,590 --> 01:33:49,490 [Music] 1917 01:33:54,110 --> 01:33:51,600 the believer is the chilling true story 1918 01:33:56,270 --> 01:33:54,120 of Dr John Mack a renowned Harvard 1919 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celebrate 2034 01:39:25,910 --> 01:39:22,080 because season one of into the Vortex 2035 01:39:27,950 --> 01:39:25,920 premiered today all right so click on 2036 01:39:29,510 --> 01:39:27,960 the link below go and check it out I 2037 01:39:30,590 --> 01:39:29,520 want to hear from everybody I want to I 2038 01:39:32,510 --> 01:39:30,600 want to know what you guys think about 2039 01:39:35,149 --> 01:39:32,520 this now 2040 01:39:37,790 --> 01:39:35,159 um Scott uh Scott and I were just 2041 01:39:40,790 --> 01:39:37,800 talking uh before the break about some 2042 01:39:41,649 --> 01:39:40,800 of these artifacts from uh around North 2043 01:39:44,930 --> 01:39:41,659 America 2044 01:39:49,370 --> 01:39:44,940 that you know everybody wants to dismiss 2045 01:39:52,070 --> 01:39:49,380 it as as a hoax and and I keep bringing 2046 01:39:53,870 --> 01:39:52,080 up the Kensington Rune stone for a lot 2047 01:39:58,550 --> 01:39:53,880 of different reasons 2048 01:40:02,810 --> 01:39:58,560 um but Scott when when I look at it 2049 01:40:04,669 --> 01:40:02,820 um I don't I don't understand here I'm 2050 01:40:07,070 --> 01:40:04,679 gonna let me let me pull this up I want 2051 01:40:08,570 --> 01:40:07,080 everybody to just take a quick look at 2052 01:40:10,970 --> 01:40:08,580 this is what we're talking this is 2053 01:40:14,629 --> 01:40:10,980 straight from Wikipedia so you know it's 2054 01:40:17,390 --> 01:40:14,639 it's not uh uh any any secret photograph 2055 01:40:20,270 --> 01:40:17,400 or anything but when you when you look 2056 01:40:21,850 --> 01:40:20,280 at this now I want everybody to 2057 01:40:23,990 --> 01:40:21,860 understand 2058 01:40:25,970 --> 01:40:24,000 that this 2059 01:40:28,490 --> 01:40:25,980 was discovered 2060 01:40:33,010 --> 01:40:28,500 in 1898. 2061 01:40:39,070 --> 01:40:36,110 how can somebody there's no internet 2062 01:40:43,490 --> 01:40:39,080 right you're not going to the library 2063 01:40:46,189 --> 01:40:43,500 you know and and so to go and hoax 2064 01:40:49,729 --> 01:40:46,199 something like this we're talking about 2065 01:40:50,470 --> 01:40:49,739 1898 Scott it just doesn't feel right to 2066 01:40:53,629 --> 01:40:50,480 me 2067 01:40:55,669 --> 01:40:53,639 well the fact of the matter is there was 2068 01:40:56,810 --> 01:40:55,679 nobody walking on the planet at that 2069 01:40:59,810 --> 01:40:56,820 time that could have carved that 2070 01:41:02,149 --> 01:40:59,820 inscription and Jim I got to tell you a 2071 01:41:03,050 --> 01:41:02,159 funny story I had you know I've I've 2072 01:41:05,629 --> 01:41:03,060 done 2073 01:41:07,850 --> 01:41:05,639 a lot of radio shows I mean obviously I 2074 01:41:09,950 --> 01:41:07,860 you know you and I have talked many 2075 01:41:12,290 --> 01:41:09,960 times and I've probably said the same 2076 01:41:15,950 --> 01:41:12,300 thing on your show where I said look I 2077 01:41:18,410 --> 01:41:15,960 will be happy to debate anybody any 2078 01:41:21,050 --> 01:41:18,420 academic anybody with knowledge it 2079 01:41:25,129 --> 01:41:21,060 doesn't matter to me I will debate you 2080 01:41:28,010 --> 01:41:25,139 on the Kensington runestone and 2081 01:41:30,590 --> 01:41:28,020 I have not had anybody take me up until 2082 01:41:32,930 --> 01:41:30,600 recently there was a guy 2083 01:41:35,390 --> 01:41:32,940 um on Twitter who 2084 01:41:38,030 --> 01:41:35,400 he said well Scott I'll take you on I'm 2085 01:41:40,310 --> 01:41:38,040 I'm a medievalist and I work with 2086 01:41:43,850 --> 01:41:40,320 manuscripts and you know let's let's 2087 01:41:45,950 --> 01:41:43,860 give it a shot so he asked me a question 2088 01:41:49,370 --> 01:41:45,960 the very first question he asked me is 2089 01:41:51,950 --> 01:41:49,380 what is the most powerful evidence 2090 01:41:53,209 --> 01:41:51,960 um about the runestone that supports its 2091 01:41:55,609 --> 01:41:53,219 authenticity 2092 01:41:58,729 --> 01:41:55,619 and I brought up a rare Rune called the 2093 01:42:02,570 --> 01:41:58,739 dottedar which was unknown 2094 01:42:04,550 --> 01:42:02,580 to Modern Scholars until 1935. they knew 2095 01:42:06,709 --> 01:42:04,560 nothing about it until there were two 2096 01:42:09,590 --> 01:42:06,719 artifacts that were found in Sweden that 2097 01:42:11,750 --> 01:42:09,600 year one was a bone that had a runic 2098 01:42:13,790 --> 01:42:11,760 inscription carved on it another one was 2099 01:42:17,149 --> 01:42:13,800 a grave slab that was actually 2100 01:42:18,709 --> 01:42:17,159 discovered when they were remodeling 2101 01:42:20,629 --> 01:42:18,719 um an old church and they were moving 2102 01:42:23,149 --> 01:42:20,639 the runes around and they found this 2103 01:42:25,729 --> 01:42:23,159 grave slab that had two dotted R's on it 2104 01:42:28,669 --> 01:42:25,739 and there were two on that bone so there 2105 01:42:31,790 --> 01:42:28,679 were four examples that were found in 2106 01:42:35,090 --> 01:42:31,800 1935 and it was published in 1938. now 2107 01:42:37,970 --> 01:42:35,100 remember prior to that time 2108 01:42:39,890 --> 01:42:37,980 nobody understood anything they didn't 2109 01:42:41,510 --> 01:42:39,900 know about this room 2110 01:42:46,310 --> 01:42:41,520 but guess what 2111 01:42:49,129 --> 01:42:46,320 it turns out it's a rare medieval rune 2112 01:42:52,669 --> 01:42:49,139 and it shows up on the kids 2113 01:42:54,830 --> 01:42:52,679 ington moonstone in 1898. now if nobody 2114 01:42:57,169 --> 01:42:54,840 knew about it prior to that 2115 01:42:59,930 --> 01:42:57,179 or after that 2116 01:43:05,030 --> 01:42:59,940 how would somebody know yet there it is 2117 01:43:08,090 --> 01:43:05,040 right that little Dot in the upper Loop 2118 01:43:09,950 --> 01:43:08,100 of the r proves it's a medieval artifact 2119 01:43:13,070 --> 01:43:09,960 all by itself and that debate I was 2120 01:43:14,930 --> 01:43:13,080 having with this manuscript expert was 2121 01:43:17,810 --> 01:43:14,940 over 2122 01:43:21,770 --> 01:43:17,820 I'm looking at it here I'm looking at it 2123 01:43:25,070 --> 01:43:21,780 here here's um uh the other thing uh 2124 01:43:26,689 --> 01:43:25,080 about this are we you know this is 1898. 2125 01:43:29,450 --> 01:43:26,699 I don't know how many right how many 2126 01:43:33,530 --> 01:43:29,460 hook taxes are on the front 2127 01:43:36,790 --> 01:43:33,540 uh there are a total of 22 hooked x's in 2128 01:43:42,229 --> 01:43:40,430 the r that you're talking about uh let 2129 01:43:44,990 --> 01:43:42,239 me let me pull it up it's right there 2130 01:43:47,270 --> 01:43:45,000 it's on line six yeah right where you're 2131 01:43:49,370 --> 01:43:47,280 right where your cursor is yeah and it's 2132 01:43:52,370 --> 01:43:49,380 over here not there you go go down to 2133 01:43:54,649 --> 01:43:52,380 the next row and over to the left 2134 01:43:56,209 --> 01:43:54,659 okay there you go okay you see that 2135 01:44:00,050 --> 01:43:56,219 little dot in the upper Loop of the r 2136 01:44:02,810 --> 01:44:00,060 yep you see that yep now it's very 2137 01:44:05,390 --> 01:44:02,820 shallow the reason it's shallow is 2138 01:44:07,910 --> 01:44:05,400 because if you go up to line one 2139 01:44:09,530 --> 01:44:07,920 well here it is here there's another one 2140 01:44:12,350 --> 01:44:09,540 right there's one between the legs 2141 01:44:13,850 --> 01:44:12,360 actually but go to line one go to line 2142 01:44:16,189 --> 01:44:13,860 one 2143 01:44:17,930 --> 01:44:16,199 right there up at the top all right 2144 01:44:21,290 --> 01:44:17,940 let's see those two r's right there 2145 01:44:24,410 --> 01:44:21,300 uh-huh you see the second one yep you 2146 01:44:27,530 --> 01:44:24,420 see the big hole up at the top yep okay 2147 01:44:30,649 --> 01:44:27,540 what happened was the Carver wanted to 2148 01:44:32,750 --> 01:44:30,659 make a dotted R in that second r 2149 01:44:35,629 --> 01:44:32,760 and what happened is he hit it too hard 2150 01:44:39,229 --> 01:44:35,639 and he blew out that plateau of Rock 2151 01:44:41,149 --> 01:44:39,239 okay then you get down here to line five 2152 01:44:44,570 --> 01:44:41,159 where you were before 2153 01:44:47,810 --> 01:44:44,580 okay see those two r's yep 2154 01:44:50,689 --> 01:44:47,820 that's also a dotted r or a palatal r 2155 01:44:52,729 --> 01:44:50,699 technically and instead he put the dot 2156 01:44:55,070 --> 01:44:52,739 between the legs 2157 01:44:58,189 --> 01:44:55,080 right it's right here yep but then he 2158 01:45:00,770 --> 01:44:58,199 went to line six he said no I don't want 2159 01:45:04,070 --> 01:45:00,780 to do that I want to go 2160 01:45:07,490 --> 01:45:04,080 and put it up here so he took his chisel 2161 01:45:10,310 --> 01:45:07,500 and he hit it softer so he wouldn't blow 2162 01:45:13,310 --> 01:45:10,320 out the plateau of rock the point is is 2163 01:45:15,310 --> 01:45:13,320 that in the in the 14th century the 2164 01:45:18,229 --> 01:45:15,320 language was coalescing 2165 01:45:19,669 --> 01:45:18,239 and there were different sounds that 2166 01:45:21,890 --> 01:45:19,679 were being made and there was a 2167 01:45:23,930 --> 01:45:21,900 different way of saying the r sound it's 2168 01:45:27,530 --> 01:45:23,940 called the palatal r and to indicate 2169 01:45:29,270 --> 01:45:27,540 that they put a dot in the rune and 2170 01:45:32,330 --> 01:45:29,280 again this was unknown to Modern 2171 01:45:35,270 --> 01:45:32,340 Scholars until 1935 when they found four 2172 01:45:37,910 --> 01:45:35,280 examples of it which begs the question 2173 01:45:40,250 --> 01:45:37,920 how did how did somebody know about an 2174 01:45:43,450 --> 01:45:40,260 1898 it's impossible 2175 01:45:48,229 --> 01:45:43,460 and and and that's it it's I mean that's 2176 01:45:51,290 --> 01:45:48,239 debate's over now the translation again 2177 01:45:55,669 --> 01:45:51,300 I just find this fascinating 2178 01:45:58,070 --> 01:45:55,679 um is is basically this eight uh gun 2179 01:46:01,129 --> 01:45:58,080 Landers and 22 northmen on this 2180 01:46:03,530 --> 01:46:01,139 exploration Journey from Finland far to 2181 01:46:06,729 --> 01:46:03,540 the West we had a camp by two shelters 2182 01:46:10,010 --> 01:46:06,739 one Day's Journey North from this Stone 2183 01:46:13,370 --> 01:46:10,020 we were fishing one day after we came 2184 01:46:15,430 --> 01:46:13,380 home found 10 men red from blood and 2185 01:46:19,850 --> 01:46:15,440 dead Avi Maria 2186 01:46:21,050 --> 01:46:19,860 saved from Evil is this accurate No it's 2187 01:46:24,410 --> 01:46:21,060 not 2188 01:46:28,129 --> 01:46:24,420 um what is the first the first phrase is 2189 01:46:32,149 --> 01:46:28,139 eight got Landers and 22 northmen on 2190 01:46:34,910 --> 01:46:32,159 this acquisition business slash taking 2191 01:46:38,149 --> 01:46:34,920 up land from Finland far to the West 2192 01:46:40,790 --> 01:46:38,159 you're looking at an old translation the 2193 01:46:43,669 --> 01:46:40,800 the other thing that's not correct is 2194 01:46:46,490 --> 01:46:43,679 when you said There Were Ten Men read 2195 01:46:48,530 --> 01:46:46,500 from blood and dead the word is not dead 2196 01:46:51,530 --> 01:46:48,540 the word is death 2197 01:46:53,750 --> 01:46:51,540 and you know that may not be a big 2198 01:46:56,870 --> 01:46:53,760 difference but the fact is the word is 2199 01:46:59,510 --> 01:46:56,880 actually deaf and not dead and you know 2200 01:47:02,149 --> 01:46:59,520 I you can do what you want with it but 2201 01:47:04,550 --> 01:47:02,159 that first mistake from the translation 2202 01:47:08,149 --> 01:47:04,560 that you have is is really important 2203 01:47:10,669 --> 01:47:08,159 journey of exploration no right they 2204 01:47:15,790 --> 01:47:10,679 were claiming land acquisition business 2205 01:47:20,570 --> 01:47:17,870 that changed 2206 01:47:24,229 --> 01:47:20,580 which would indicate that this is uh 2207 01:47:29,050 --> 01:47:24,239 which would indicate that this is 2208 01:47:32,750 --> 01:47:29,060 um uh a marker of territory 2209 01:47:36,410 --> 01:47:32,760 right right a land claim not not just 2210 01:47:38,330 --> 01:47:36,420 some chat about a campsite no no 2211 01:47:40,370 --> 01:47:38,340 you know this is this is one of the 2212 01:47:42,890 --> 01:47:40,380 things that I've argued for a long time 2213 01:47:45,950 --> 01:47:42,900 I mean think about it logically why 2214 01:47:48,050 --> 01:47:45,960 would a group of Europeans the Templars 2215 01:47:50,570 --> 01:47:48,060 in this case come all the way over 2216 01:47:53,510 --> 01:47:50,580 halfway across the continent and do this 2217 01:47:55,910 --> 01:47:53,520 well there's a reason right they did it 2218 01:47:58,669 --> 01:47:55,920 for a compelling reason they came to the 2219 01:48:01,609 --> 01:47:58,679 geographic center of the continent to a 2220 01:48:03,470 --> 01:48:01,619 place along the Continental Divide and 2221 01:48:06,109 --> 01:48:03,480 it just so happens in the 14th century 2222 01:48:07,910 --> 01:48:06,119 both the French uh I will remind people 2223 01:48:11,870 --> 01:48:07,920 that the headquarters of the Templars in 2224 01:48:14,750 --> 01:48:11,880 the 14th century was uh Paris France uh 2225 01:48:16,430 --> 01:48:14,760 well it was up until 1307. 2226 01:48:19,189 --> 01:48:16,440 um this is just a few decades after the 2227 01:48:21,649 --> 01:48:19,199 Templars were put down and the Dutch had 2228 01:48:23,510 --> 01:48:21,659 a land claim practice at the time where 2229 01:48:26,090 --> 01:48:23,520 if you could prove that you navigated to 2230 01:48:27,950 --> 01:48:26,100 the headwaters of a river system and 2231 01:48:30,229 --> 01:48:27,960 placed a land claim Stone in the ground 2232 01:48:32,990 --> 01:48:30,239 often a tin plaque and a tree for 2233 01:48:35,209 --> 01:48:33,000 redundancy you could lay claim to the 2234 01:48:38,689 --> 01:48:35,219 entire river system and all the land 2235 01:48:40,550 --> 01:48:38,699 associated with it right right so at 2236 01:48:43,129 --> 01:48:40,560 Kensington which is on the north-south 2237 01:48:45,709 --> 01:48:43,139 Continental Divide and that divide goes 2238 01:48:47,950 --> 01:48:45,719 right down to Browns Valley if you look 2239 01:48:50,510 --> 01:48:47,960 at the state of Minnesota on the Western 2240 01:48:52,729 --> 01:48:50,520 border you see how there's a little bump 2241 01:48:54,410 --> 01:48:52,739 kind of like that bump on your heel on 2242 01:48:57,590 --> 01:48:54,420 your ankle 2243 01:49:00,290 --> 01:48:57,600 that westernmost point on the bump is 2244 01:49:02,750 --> 01:49:00,300 called Browns Valley the rivers all flow 2245 01:49:05,149 --> 01:49:02,760 to the north from there and on the south 2246 01:49:08,330 --> 01:49:05,159 they you know the bottom side they flow 2247 01:49:09,350 --> 01:49:08,340 to the South so theoretically at 2248 01:49:11,930 --> 01:49:09,360 Kensington 2249 01:49:15,669 --> 01:49:11,940 you could lay claim to the Red River 2250 01:49:19,850 --> 01:49:15,679 Hudson Bay Watershed to the north the 2251 01:49:22,310 --> 01:49:19,860 Minnesota Mississippi uh Watershed all 2252 01:49:24,590 --> 01:49:22,320 the way to the gulf which is like half 2253 01:49:26,930 --> 01:49:24,600 the continent so when you think about it 2254 01:49:28,669 --> 01:49:26,940 in that context and why I'm the first 2255 01:49:31,669 --> 01:49:28,679 person to bring this thing up I don't 2256 01:49:34,070 --> 01:49:31,679 know I'm not that smart I I just know 2257 01:49:37,910 --> 01:49:34,080 that they did it for a compelling reason 2258 01:49:40,430 --> 01:49:37,920 and claiming land uh trying to establish 2259 01:49:43,250 --> 01:49:40,440 a new place to live after you had just 2260 01:49:46,550 --> 01:49:43,260 been driven out of Europe arrested 2261 01:49:50,030 --> 01:49:46,560 tortured and burned that makes sense 2262 01:49:52,550 --> 01:49:50,040 it's logical it fits and there's all 2263 01:49:55,310 --> 01:49:52,560 kinds of other reasons 2264 01:49:57,830 --> 01:49:55,320 that supports why this was the Templar 2265 01:50:00,590 --> 01:49:57,840 so why can't historians accept this 2266 01:50:02,149 --> 01:50:00,600 story I'll tell you why because the 2267 01:50:04,550 --> 01:50:02,159 minute you start to accept that the 2268 01:50:05,930 --> 01:50:04,560 runestone is real then all of a sudden 2269 01:50:07,550 --> 01:50:05,940 you got to go back and take a look at 2270 01:50:09,890 --> 01:50:07,560 all these other artifacts that have been 2271 01:50:12,470 --> 01:50:09,900 dismissed and you completely rewrite 2272 01:50:15,709 --> 01:50:12,480 their narrative but in addition to that 2273 01:50:18,350 --> 01:50:15,719 you trigger a series of dominoes that 2274 01:50:21,350 --> 01:50:18,360 begin to fall and they go to very 2275 01:50:24,229 --> 01:50:21,360 inconvenient places for people like the 2276 01:50:27,709 --> 01:50:24,239 Roman Catholic church right well believe 2277 01:50:29,750 --> 01:50:27,719 you me they have a vested interest in 2278 01:50:32,090 --> 01:50:29,760 making sure that this truth is never 2279 01:50:34,970 --> 01:50:32,100 revealed but you know what it's too 2280 01:50:37,609 --> 01:50:34,980 freaking late pal because people like 2281 01:50:39,350 --> 01:50:37,619 you give us a platform to get the truth 2282 01:50:42,470 --> 01:50:39,360 out there and so thank you very much 2283 01:50:45,530 --> 01:50:42,480 well I think you know I'm a little 2284 01:50:48,169 --> 01:50:45,540 pissed off and and all I'm trying to do 2285 01:50:50,689 --> 01:50:48,179 is is get the answers uh to some very 2286 01:50:52,790 --> 01:50:50,699 big questions right on brother and 2287 01:50:53,990 --> 01:50:52,800 that's what I'm doing but here's on the 2288 01:51:03,530 --> 01:50:54,000 side 2289 01:51:07,790 --> 01:51:05,290 what about it 2290 01:51:09,890 --> 01:51:07,800 but here's the thing you just brought up 2291 01:51:12,590 --> 01:51:09,900 the Templars in the 14th century yeah 2292 01:51:14,810 --> 01:51:12,600 right and we've got a date um on the 2293 01:51:19,490 --> 01:51:14,820 side that I don't think is in dispute 2294 01:51:22,790 --> 01:51:19,500 that it's 1362. uh so here here's my 2295 01:51:25,250 --> 01:51:22,800 question was that in the ground 2296 01:51:30,649 --> 01:51:25,260 there in Minnesota 2297 01:51:32,750 --> 01:51:30,659 since 1362 absolutely in fact the 2298 01:51:35,090 --> 01:51:32,760 weathering is consistent with that and 2299 01:51:36,590 --> 01:51:35,100 what what I bet happened 2300 01:51:38,510 --> 01:51:36,600 was 2301 01:51:40,729 --> 01:51:38,520 and we have some information that I 2302 01:51:42,950 --> 01:51:40,739 really can't talk about yet that's very 2303 01:51:51,830 --> 01:51:42,960 very specific to the roots no no no 2304 01:51:57,709 --> 01:51:55,609 we know we know who did it we know when 2305 01:51:59,229 --> 01:51:57,719 they left Europe 2306 01:52:02,030 --> 01:51:59,239 um what 2307 01:52:03,410 --> 01:52:02,040 you know who made the Kensington 2308 01:52:07,970 --> 01:52:03,420 runestone 2309 01:52:10,010 --> 01:52:07,980 yep yep and in fact we have a name we 2310 01:52:12,169 --> 01:52:10,020 think we know who actually crafted the 2311 01:52:14,390 --> 01:52:12,179 inscription whether he carved it or not 2312 01:52:16,910 --> 01:52:14,400 I'm I'm not sure but we actually have a 2313 01:52:19,970 --> 01:52:16,920 name and 2314 01:52:22,970 --> 01:52:19,980 um his name is Father Richards 2315 01:52:24,410 --> 01:52:22,980 father Richards and uh what country was 2316 01:52:26,930 --> 01:52:24,420 he from 2317 01:52:29,450 --> 01:52:26,940 well he would have been educated on uh 2318 01:52:32,450 --> 01:52:29,460 gotland because the eight gotlanders are 2319 01:52:34,430 --> 01:52:32,460 people that live are from gotland and it 2320 01:52:37,250 --> 01:52:34,440 just so happens that when I went over to 2321 01:52:39,169 --> 01:52:37,260 Sweden five times when I was 2322 01:52:41,689 --> 01:52:39,179 investigating the runes the dialect the 2323 01:52:44,390 --> 01:52:41,699 grammar the dating all the stuff that is 2324 01:52:47,209 --> 01:52:44,400 uh within the inscription so I could 2325 01:52:48,709 --> 01:52:47,219 understand it all the evidence all the 2326 01:52:52,729 --> 01:52:48,719 stuff that the scholars said didn't 2327 01:52:55,010 --> 01:52:52,739 exist did exist and I found pretty much 2328 01:52:57,950 --> 01:52:55,020 everything on the island of gotland now 2329 01:53:00,350 --> 01:52:57,960 now some people may say uh wait a minute 2330 01:53:02,810 --> 01:53:00,360 Scott you're not a roonologist how come 2331 01:53:06,229 --> 01:53:02,820 some Dopey guy come over from the United 2332 01:53:08,090 --> 01:53:06,239 States and go in their backyard and find 2333 01:53:10,070 --> 01:53:08,100 something that the scholars missed right 2334 01:53:12,350 --> 01:53:10,080 that's a fair question and it doesn't 2335 01:53:15,590 --> 01:53:12,360 seem to make sense but that the truth of 2336 01:53:18,890 --> 01:53:15,600 the matter is is that when I went over 2337 01:53:21,109 --> 01:53:18,900 there to gotland this was the last place 2338 01:53:23,990 --> 01:53:21,119 that the Scandinavian Scholars studied 2339 01:53:25,970 --> 01:53:24,000 the runic inscriptions on that island 2340 01:53:27,830 --> 01:53:25,980 they studied them all over Sweden and 2341 01:53:30,350 --> 01:53:27,840 Norway and everywhere else but gotland 2342 01:53:34,070 --> 01:53:30,360 was the last place and in the early 2343 01:53:36,530 --> 01:53:34,080 2000s is when they published their 2344 01:53:40,310 --> 01:53:36,540 findings of these grave slabs hundreds 2345 01:53:42,890 --> 01:53:40,320 of grave slabs and I was myself and Dick 2346 01:53:45,350 --> 01:53:42,900 Nielsen were the first ones to look at 2347 01:53:47,510 --> 01:53:45,360 those inscriptions in context with the 2348 01:53:49,310 --> 01:53:47,520 Kensington runestone the the other 2349 01:53:53,330 --> 01:53:49,320 Scholars just hadn't gotten around to it 2350 01:53:55,850 --> 01:53:53,340 but but I knew because the rock told me 2351 01:53:58,790 --> 01:53:55,860 it was real that evidence had to be 2352 01:54:00,290 --> 01:53:58,800 there and that's where it was and what 2353 01:54:00,830 --> 01:54:00,300 can I tell you 2354 01:54:04,189 --> 01:54:00,840 um 2355 01:54:06,649 --> 01:54:04,199 you know logic uh you know really runs 2356 01:54:08,629 --> 01:54:06,659 the show it told me it was there I just 2357 01:54:10,310 --> 01:54:08,639 had to go look for it these guys all 2358 01:54:12,350 --> 01:54:10,320 thought it was a fake so they sat on 2359 01:54:14,570 --> 01:54:12,360 their fannies and didn't do anything and 2360 01:54:18,109 --> 01:54:14,580 they missed out what can I tell you 2361 01:54:21,169 --> 01:54:18,119 now um okay let's talk about gotland for 2362 01:54:23,689 --> 01:54:21,179 a second because the inscription says 2363 01:54:26,930 --> 01:54:23,699 the translation 2364 01:54:28,510 --> 01:54:26,940 um Finland now we have gotland it says 2365 01:54:31,910 --> 01:54:28,520 got lenders 2366 01:54:35,689 --> 01:54:31,920 so for everybody to understand here's 2367 01:54:37,550 --> 01:54:35,699 here's North America here gotland the 2368 01:54:40,609 --> 01:54:37,560 other side of the earth that's a long 2369 01:54:43,550 --> 01:54:40,619 ways away man and right it's right it's 2370 01:54:46,250 --> 01:54:43,560 right in between uh Denmark Finland 2371 01:54:47,629 --> 01:54:46,260 Sweden and Norway right 2372 01:54:50,689 --> 01:54:47,639 um uh right in the middle of everything 2373 01:54:53,570 --> 01:54:50,699 it you would have to navigate out of 2374 01:54:56,090 --> 01:54:53,580 there and then out into the Atlantic and 2375 01:54:58,609 --> 01:54:56,100 that's that's a heck of a journey in of 2376 01:55:00,290 --> 01:54:58,619 itself now the guys were from gotland it 2377 01:55:02,530 --> 01:55:00,300 doesn't mean that that's where the the 2378 01:55:06,229 --> 01:55:02,540 ship took off from in fact 2379 01:55:09,229 --> 01:55:06,239 they they shipped uh left Norway in 1358 2380 01:55:11,649 --> 01:55:09,239 that we know okay let's back up let's 2381 01:55:14,030 --> 01:55:11,659 what's where's Vinland what's what's 2382 01:55:16,010 --> 01:55:14,040 that's great question now remember I 2383 01:55:18,530 --> 01:55:16,020 talked about the spirit pondering Stones 2384 01:55:22,370 --> 01:55:18,540 yes they refer to Finland as well 2385 01:55:24,950 --> 01:55:22,380 they're dated 1401 and 1402 using the 2386 01:55:27,709 --> 01:55:24,960 same dating method that's found on the 2387 01:55:29,930 --> 01:55:27,719 Kensington runestown the hook decks is 2388 01:55:31,910 --> 01:55:29,940 all over the spirit pond runstone so 2389 01:55:35,030 --> 01:55:31,920 it's the same party it's the same 2390 01:55:37,189 --> 01:55:35,040 Templars right maybe not the exact same 2391 01:55:40,609 --> 01:55:37,199 parties it's not the same author we 2392 01:55:43,430 --> 01:55:40,619 don't think but he's using the same 2393 01:55:47,209 --> 01:55:43,440 um the same alphabet the same dating 2394 01:55:49,609 --> 01:55:47,219 method and he references Vinland and on 2395 01:55:54,050 --> 01:55:49,619 that stone it's called the spirit Pond 2396 01:55:55,850 --> 01:55:54,060 map Stone it has a map of spirit Pond 2397 01:55:58,790 --> 01:55:55,860 which is right at the mouth of the 2398 01:56:02,510 --> 01:55:58,800 Kennebec River which is up in Maine 2399 01:56:05,750 --> 01:56:02,520 and what it says Is Vinland 2400 01:56:06,649 --> 01:56:05,760 takes two days with an arrow pointing to 2401 01:56:08,090 --> 01:56:06,659 the right 2402 01:56:10,070 --> 01:56:08,100 now what a lot of people don't 2403 01:56:11,270 --> 01:56:10,080 understand they would say well if you go 2404 01:56:13,129 --> 01:56:11,280 to the right you're going to start 2405 01:56:15,229 --> 01:56:13,139 heading back towards Europe 2406 01:56:17,450 --> 01:56:15,239 no 2407 01:56:21,050 --> 01:56:17,460 what they don't understand is most 2408 01:56:22,790 --> 01:56:21,060 medieval Maps had East at the top 2409 01:56:24,890 --> 01:56:22,800 and North 2410 01:56:27,350 --> 01:56:24,900 in what would should be the West right 2411 01:56:29,990 --> 01:56:27,360 because Jerusalem was the center of the 2412 01:56:33,470 --> 01:56:30,000 world and East was always at the top 2413 01:56:37,609 --> 01:56:33,480 but if you rotate it 90 degrees that 2414 01:56:38,930 --> 01:56:37,619 arrow goes from pointing you know East 2415 01:56:41,930 --> 01:56:38,940 to South 2416 01:56:44,330 --> 01:56:41,940 and it says Vinland takes two days two 2417 01:56:47,030 --> 01:56:44,340 days sail from the mouth of the Kennebec 2418 01:56:50,030 --> 01:56:47,040 River in Maine put you right in the Cape 2419 01:56:52,870 --> 01:56:50,040 Cod Narragansett Bay where the greatest 2420 01:56:55,250 --> 01:56:52,880 Harbor on the entire East Coast is 2421 01:56:58,070 --> 01:56:55,260 Narragansett Bay and you know what's in 2422 01:57:01,129 --> 01:56:58,080 that bay the in Hawk signal Vincy Stone 2423 01:57:02,870 --> 01:57:01,139 the Narragansett runestone the AVM Stone 2424 01:57:05,390 --> 01:57:02,880 which people don't even know about yet 2425 01:57:07,669 --> 01:57:05,400 because we haven't told them and the 2426 01:57:10,550 --> 01:57:07,679 Newport Tower right 2427 01:57:12,770 --> 01:57:10,560 so Vinland I think that's being 2428 01:57:15,830 --> 01:57:12,780 referenced on Spirit Pond and the 2429 01:57:18,470 --> 01:57:15,840 Kensington stone is actually 2430 01:57:20,330 --> 01:57:18,480 Ground Zero which is the Newport Tower 2431 01:57:23,390 --> 01:57:20,340 and Narragansett Bay which is now Rhode 2432 01:57:25,970 --> 01:57:23,400 Island that's where Finland is where 2433 01:57:28,250 --> 01:57:25,980 does the name Vinland come from well the 2434 01:57:32,390 --> 01:57:28,260 Vikings use the term Finland Vineland 2435 01:57:35,689 --> 01:57:32,400 right and grapes grow out on Cape Cod 2436 01:57:38,030 --> 01:57:35,699 and right in that area and so it's 2437 01:57:39,410 --> 01:57:38,040 Vineland that's what it means 2438 01:57:43,189 --> 01:57:39,420 huh 2439 01:57:47,629 --> 01:57:43,199 right there so look dude it's it's it's 2440 01:57:50,209 --> 01:57:47,639 it's becoming more and more obvious and 2441 01:57:53,510 --> 01:57:50,219 when all the stuff that we have comes 2442 01:57:55,550 --> 01:57:53,520 out it's done okay and it completely 2443 01:57:58,790 --> 01:57:55,560 rewrites The Narrative of North America 2444 01:58:01,729 --> 01:57:58,800 but more important than that 2445 01:58:03,530 --> 01:58:01,739 the Templars were the ones 2446 01:58:05,390 --> 01:58:03,540 that set the table 2447 01:58:08,750 --> 01:58:05,400 that brought the treasures over here 2448 01:58:11,149 --> 01:58:08,760 buried them in multiple places and left 2449 01:58:13,550 --> 01:58:11,159 them for someday 2450 01:58:16,550 --> 01:58:13,560 they formed a strategic alliance with 2451 01:58:18,070 --> 01:58:16,560 the indigenous people of this continent 2452 01:58:20,450 --> 01:58:18,080 who practice 2453 01:58:22,010 --> 01:58:20,460 Masonic ritual 2454 01:58:24,950 --> 01:58:22,020 yes 2455 01:58:27,589 --> 01:58:24,960 Native Americans practice Masonic ritual 2456 01:58:29,990 --> 01:58:27,599 in the Algonquin tribes it's called the 2457 01:58:32,930 --> 01:58:30,000 Medea okay 2458 01:58:34,550 --> 01:58:32,940 the Templars practice Freemasonry 2459 01:58:37,490 --> 01:58:34,560 now how the hell do you think that they 2460 01:58:39,129 --> 01:58:37,500 got all the way to Minnesota right they 2461 01:58:41,930 --> 01:58:39,139 didn't fight their way to Kensington 2462 01:58:44,149 --> 01:58:41,940 they traveled with their indigenous 2463 01:58:45,890 --> 01:58:44,159 Brothers 2464 01:58:47,629 --> 01:58:45,900 I know that's what they call them 2465 01:58:50,209 --> 01:58:47,639 because the indigenous people in the 2466 01:58:52,729 --> 01:58:50,219 midday when sweats that I've been in 2467 01:58:55,370 --> 01:58:52,739 still called the Templars they're Blood 2468 01:58:57,890 --> 01:58:55,380 Brothers to this day 2469 01:59:00,109 --> 01:58:57,900 which begs another question Jim 2470 01:59:02,629 --> 01:59:00,119 why is it these Scholars these 2471 01:59:05,030 --> 01:59:02,639 anthropologists these historians these 2472 01:59:06,410 --> 01:59:05,040 so-called smart people that are quick to 2473 01:59:09,589 --> 01:59:06,420 pass judgment on things like the 2474 01:59:11,689 --> 01:59:09,599 runestone why is it that they haven't 2475 01:59:13,790 --> 01:59:11,699 reached out to the native people on this 2476 01:59:16,609 --> 01:59:13,800 continent and I hate to break it to you 2477 01:59:17,870 --> 01:59:16,619 you Columbus supporters but he never 2478 01:59:20,930 --> 01:59:17,880 said foot 2479 01:59:23,209 --> 01:59:20,940 on the country that we now call America 2480 01:59:25,490 --> 01:59:23,219 that already had millions of people 2481 01:59:28,970 --> 01:59:25,500 living here he didn't discover crap 2482 01:59:31,790 --> 01:59:28,980 right so what about them yeah yeah yeah 2483 01:59:34,490 --> 01:59:31,800 yeah you know what I'm saying I do about 2484 01:59:36,790 --> 01:59:34,500 that Jim why am I the first person to 2485 01:59:41,089 --> 01:59:36,800 bring this up wow 2486 01:59:42,830 --> 01:59:41,099 it's here's my my reaction to that and 2487 01:59:45,229 --> 01:59:42,840 I've talked about this so much on the 2488 01:59:49,010 --> 01:59:45,239 show with you and and others 2489 01:59:51,490 --> 01:59:49,020 um it's very simple to me I don't get it 2490 01:59:56,089 --> 01:59:51,500 but North America 2491 01:59:59,570 --> 01:59:56,099 and the native indigenous cultures here 2492 02:00:02,390 --> 01:59:59,580 are not of any interest to historians 2493 02:00:06,669 --> 02:00:02,400 and I I don't understand that 2494 02:00:10,370 --> 02:00:06,679 um Chaco Canyon right now 2495 02:00:12,010 --> 02:00:10,380 we have some of the greatest stuff here 2496 02:00:15,830 --> 02:00:12,020 in North America 2497 02:00:18,050 --> 02:00:15,840 it's amazing and I love Egypt man and 2498 02:00:19,790 --> 02:00:18,060 you know Greece is great and that you 2499 02:00:24,050 --> 02:00:19,800 know there's there's stuff all over you 2500 02:00:26,870 --> 02:00:24,060 know Machu Picchu I get that but right 2501 02:00:30,470 --> 02:00:26,880 here in North America why is the history 2502 02:00:33,290 --> 02:00:30,480 here the red-headed stepchild why don't 2503 02:00:35,930 --> 02:00:33,300 I don't get it here's something I tell 2504 02:00:38,030 --> 02:00:35,940 you know I'll talk to people about this 2505 02:00:40,790 --> 02:00:38,040 and I will tell them what I'm about to 2506 02:00:43,729 --> 02:00:40,800 say and they don't believe me 2507 02:00:45,830 --> 02:00:43,739 in North America at Cahokia 2508 02:00:47,629 --> 02:00:45,840 there is an Earthen 2509 02:00:50,330 --> 02:00:47,639 pyramid 2510 02:00:52,490 --> 02:00:50,340 that has a larger footprint than the 2511 02:00:55,010 --> 02:00:52,500 great period of Giza 2512 02:00:56,810 --> 02:00:55,020 in North America on just the east side 2513 02:00:59,990 --> 02:00:56,820 of the river a little bit north of St 2514 02:01:02,209 --> 02:01:00,000 Louis and people go what 2515 02:01:04,729 --> 02:01:02,219 now why is it that nobody knows about 2516 02:01:07,430 --> 02:01:04,739 that everybody knows about the pyramids 2517 02:01:10,129 --> 02:01:07,440 in Egypt right we got one bigger over 2518 02:01:13,070 --> 02:01:10,139 here why don't people know about that 2519 02:01:14,510 --> 02:01:13,080 well because the natives built it and so 2520 02:01:19,189 --> 02:01:14,520 therefore it can't be interesting and 2521 02:01:23,330 --> 02:01:21,649 um uh when I was in eighth grade so 2522 02:01:25,490 --> 02:01:23,340 let's push this back that would have 2523 02:01:29,570 --> 02:01:25,500 been 1970 2524 02:01:31,450 --> 02:01:29,580 six like right in there my uh uh Indiana 2525 02:01:34,910 --> 02:01:31,460 history teacher 2526 02:01:36,729 --> 02:01:34,920 was telling us about the Mounds in in 2527 02:01:39,589 --> 02:01:36,739 Indiana right yes 2528 02:01:41,330 --> 02:01:39,599 and and then he went on to say and he 2529 02:01:44,810 --> 02:01:41,340 showed us some maps and some drawings 2530 02:01:47,470 --> 02:01:44,820 about how many of these Mound sites were 2531 02:01:51,350 --> 02:01:47,480 surveyed right and then 2532 02:01:55,370 --> 02:01:51,360 removed for Farmland plowed over yeah 2533 02:01:58,910 --> 02:01:55,380 over yeah and it and and it's just like 2534 02:02:01,850 --> 02:01:58,920 this but how how could you and it was a 2535 02:02:04,669 --> 02:02:01,860 something that was very tragic I wish I 2536 02:02:08,330 --> 02:02:04,679 remembered uh his name I'm sure he's not 2537 02:02:11,149 --> 02:02:08,340 around anymore but that he really wanted 2538 02:02:14,510 --> 02:02:11,159 us to know about this and he would show 2539 02:02:17,510 --> 02:02:14,520 us these uh the drawings that they made 2540 02:02:20,209 --> 02:02:17,520 of the Mounds Squadron Davis did those 2541 02:02:23,229 --> 02:02:20,219 those those drawings your time and then 2542 02:02:26,149 --> 02:02:23,239 and then later the same piece of land 2543 02:02:29,270 --> 02:02:26,159 drawings everything's gone it's Farmland 2544 02:02:30,470 --> 02:02:29,280 yeah yeah in fact and I think it's in 2545 02:02:33,410 --> 02:02:30,480 Ohio 2546 02:02:35,450 --> 02:02:33,420 but Squire and Davis mapped one location 2547 02:02:38,390 --> 02:02:35,460 of Mounds 2548 02:02:42,109 --> 02:02:38,400 and there's a nine candled Menorah in 2549 02:02:42,970 --> 02:02:42,119 Mounds oh I I can believe it there is I 2550 02:02:46,189 --> 02:02:42,980 mean yeah 2551 02:02:49,129 --> 02:02:46,199 if you Google a menorah shape Earth and 2552 02:02:53,089 --> 02:02:49,139 mounds it'll come right up that was 2553 02:02:57,350 --> 02:02:53,099 bulldozed over too Indiana Ohio Kentucky 2554 02:02:57,640 --> 02:02:57,360 Tennessee uh Wisconsin Illinois 2555 02:02:58,810 --> 02:02:57,650 um 2556 02:03:01,330 --> 02:02:58,820 [Music] 2557 02:03:03,589 --> 02:03:01,340 everywhere they're all gone 2558 02:03:05,270 --> 02:03:03,599 they're all gone and you know what I'll 2559 02:03:06,169 --> 02:03:05,280 tell you something a lot of people don't 2560 02:03:10,250 --> 02:03:06,179 know 2561 02:03:11,930 --> 02:03:10,260 is we have Earthen Mounds all across the 2562 02:03:14,330 --> 02:03:11,940 continent right they start from the West 2563 02:03:16,310 --> 02:03:14,340 Coast a lot of those are gone but 2564 02:03:18,470 --> 02:03:16,320 they're there and they go all the way to 2565 02:03:21,709 --> 02:03:18,480 the east coast and what a lot of people 2566 02:03:24,169 --> 02:03:21,719 don't know is these Mounds mirror what's 2567 02:03:28,250 --> 02:03:24,179 happening up in the heavens and the 2568 02:03:31,550 --> 02:03:28,260 zodiacal belt that goes around the Earth 2569 02:03:34,910 --> 02:03:31,560 is on the ground too sure it is built 2570 02:03:36,950 --> 02:03:34,920 Mounds to mimic the constellations in 2571 02:03:39,830 --> 02:03:36,960 the heavens think about that that's 2572 02:03:41,270 --> 02:03:39,840 amazing and that is amazing and nobody 2573 02:03:43,790 --> 02:03:41,280 wants to talk about it I got to take a 2574 02:03:45,470 --> 02:03:43,800 break let's get it in this is the black 2575 02:03:48,649 --> 02:03:45,480 I am your hosting in church tonight the 2576 02:03:52,010 --> 02:03:48,659 one and only Scott Walter is with us 2577 02:03:53,689 --> 02:03:52,020 yeah today premiered into the Vortex I'm 2578 02:03:56,930 --> 02:03:53,699 very happy about that Scott was one of 2579 02:03:58,430 --> 02:03:56,940 my guests on season one more of a scout 2580 02:04:00,410 --> 02:03:58,440 when we come back after this short break 2581 02:04:01,990 --> 02:04:00,420 stay with us 2582 02:04:03,280 --> 02:04:02,000 [Music] 2583 02:04:09,620 --> 02:04:03,290 hi everybody 2584 02:04:13,669 --> 02:04:11,930 [Music] 2585 02:04:17,270 --> 02:04:13,679 a million gigawatt pair of normal 2586 02:04:19,609 --> 02:04:17,280 Powerhouse k-u-n-x-d-b 2587 02:04:21,830 --> 02:04:19,619 ax 2588 02:04:24,290 --> 02:04:21,840 the believer is the chilling true story 2589 02:04:26,450 --> 02:04:24,300 of Dr John Mack a renowned Harvard 2590 02:04:29,209 --> 02:04:26,460 psychiatrist and pillar to Prize winner 2591 02:04:31,850 --> 02:04:29,219 this is a outreach program from the 2592 02:04:34,010 --> 02:04:31,860 cosmos to the consciously impaired you 2593 02:04:36,609 --> 02:04:34,020 risked it all to investigate human 2594 02:04:39,890 --> 02:04:36,619 encounters with aliens the believer 2595 02:04:42,050 --> 02:04:39,900 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2680 02:09:25,550 --> 02:09:22,860 our dear friends and of course John 2681 02:09:29,390 --> 02:09:25,560 Anthony West and and things 2682 02:09:34,250 --> 02:09:32,330 um Let me let me say this when you go to 2683 02:09:36,830 --> 02:09:34,260 Egypt and you put your eyeballs in this 2684 02:09:39,830 --> 02:09:36,840 stuff all over the place you realize 2685 02:09:44,030 --> 02:09:39,840 right then that somebody is freaking 2686 02:09:46,790 --> 02:09:44,040 lying and lying a lot okay you do but 2687 02:09:51,109 --> 02:09:46,800 but here's the thing let's back up 2688 02:09:54,770 --> 02:09:51,119 um when Robert shock presented these 2689 02:09:58,550 --> 02:09:54,780 ideas and and his knowledge 2690 02:10:02,030 --> 02:09:58,560 um uh about the weathering of uh you 2691 02:10:03,470 --> 02:10:02,040 know rain water in the Great Sphinx 2692 02:10:05,870 --> 02:10:03,480 enclosure 2693 02:10:08,390 --> 02:10:05,880 right and you hear about this and you 2694 02:10:11,270 --> 02:10:08,400 know pushing this back to 10 500 BC well 2695 02:10:14,330 --> 02:10:11,280 it's 12 500 years ago it's a long time 2696 02:10:17,450 --> 02:10:14,340 and that's way off of what we've been 2697 02:10:20,990 --> 02:10:17,460 told but here's the thing when you go to 2698 02:10:25,729 --> 02:10:21,000 Egypt and you find out a few things one 2699 02:10:30,250 --> 02:10:25,739 that it rains in Cairo you ready one day 2700 02:10:37,790 --> 02:10:34,550 it's all dry right okay so uh that's 2701 02:10:40,270 --> 02:10:37,800 that's number one and number two the 2702 02:10:45,290 --> 02:10:40,280 last time that it did rain 2703 02:10:48,830 --> 02:10:45,300 in in Cairo in Egypt like this was 2704 02:10:52,550 --> 02:10:48,840 12 000 years ago all right now you go 2705 02:10:55,609 --> 02:10:52,560 all over Egypt man you don't see any 2706 02:10:58,550 --> 02:10:55,619 water erosion anywhere 2707 02:11:00,649 --> 02:10:58,560 but see there's no water there's no rain 2708 02:11:03,169 --> 02:11:00,659 there isn't it you know it doesn't exist 2709 02:11:06,050 --> 02:11:03,179 and you go down into this Sphinx 2710 02:11:08,570 --> 02:11:06,060 enclosure and I shot a lot of video and 2711 02:11:13,010 --> 02:11:08,580 you look up you can see you're like 2712 02:11:15,290 --> 02:11:13,020 it's right there how can we have that 2713 02:11:18,770 --> 02:11:15,300 kind of denial and that kind of fight 2714 02:11:20,229 --> 02:11:18,780 when you're looking at it it is 2715 02:11:24,950 --> 02:11:20,239 obviously 2716 02:11:27,530 --> 02:11:24,960 really really old and uh you put your 2717 02:11:30,410 --> 02:11:27,540 eyeballs on it and and what they are 2718 02:11:32,750 --> 02:11:30,420 telling you and what you see are two 2719 02:11:34,189 --> 02:11:32,760 different things yeah and they just want 2720 02:11:37,129 --> 02:11:34,199 to fight it man 2721 02:11:38,229 --> 02:11:37,139 well I you know it's 2722 02:11:41,689 --> 02:11:38,239 um 2723 02:11:44,330 --> 02:11:41,699 you know Jim I I wish I I wish I had the 2724 02:11:46,609 --> 02:11:44,340 answer for this problem because I work 2725 02:11:48,830 --> 02:11:46,619 in the professional field right and it's 2726 02:11:50,510 --> 02:11:48,840 a different it's a completely different 2727 02:11:53,209 --> 02:11:50,520 thing 2728 02:11:55,370 --> 02:11:53,219 um I'm licensed I have to you know I 2729 02:11:58,550 --> 02:11:55,380 have to re-up my license every two years 2730 02:12:01,970 --> 02:11:58,560 I have to do a certain amount of uh 2731 02:12:02,810 --> 02:12:01,980 professional development hours and when 2732 02:12:11,450 --> 02:12:02,820 I 2733 02:12:13,430 --> 02:12:11,460 prepared 2734 02:12:16,729 --> 02:12:13,440 to defend those 2735 02:12:19,729 --> 02:12:16,739 in a court of law under oath 2736 02:12:22,430 --> 02:12:19,739 and I'll tell you what it can get really 2737 02:12:24,649 --> 02:12:22,440 nasty when you're in court and you know 2738 02:12:26,689 --> 02:12:24,659 we've all seen you know courtroom 2739 02:12:28,790 --> 02:12:26,699 programs and we see all the drama that 2740 02:12:30,890 --> 02:12:28,800 goes on and the arguing and the fighting 2741 02:12:33,290 --> 02:12:30,900 and the lawyers getting really into 2742 02:12:35,930 --> 02:12:33,300 these people on the witness stand that 2743 02:12:37,729 --> 02:12:35,940 happens and it's happened to me and I 2744 02:12:41,330 --> 02:12:37,739 bark back at these people 2745 02:12:44,570 --> 02:12:41,340 but my point is is that it's a high bar 2746 02:12:47,209 --> 02:12:44,580 that we have to uh you know to achieve 2747 02:12:50,089 --> 02:12:47,219 to be able to 2748 02:12:53,149 --> 02:12:50,099 um be in this Arena and and be able to 2749 02:12:55,550 --> 02:12:53,159 reach our findings and defend them 2750 02:12:58,069 --> 02:12:55,560 in the academic world 2751 02:12:58,750 --> 02:12:58,079 it's a lot different animal 2752 02:13:01,609 --> 02:12:58,760 um 2753 02:13:04,490 --> 02:13:01,619 basically my experience has been these 2754 02:13:06,950 --> 02:13:04,500 people all look at something 2755 02:13:08,870 --> 02:13:06,960 they talk about it and then they reach 2756 02:13:10,910 --> 02:13:08,880 an agreement right they reach a 2757 02:13:11,629 --> 02:13:10,920 consensus 2758 02:13:13,850 --> 02:13:11,639 um 2759 02:13:16,129 --> 02:13:13,860 I like to think that they get it right 2760 02:13:17,870 --> 02:13:16,139 most of the time but I don't know how 2761 02:13:19,370 --> 02:13:17,880 the hell they could screw up so many of 2762 02:13:22,250 --> 02:13:19,380 these artifacts that we've been talking 2763 02:13:25,910 --> 02:13:22,260 about the history that they represent is 2764 02:13:26,930 --> 02:13:25,920 completely convoluted and wrong and you 2765 02:13:31,970 --> 02:13:26,940 know 2766 02:13:34,910 --> 02:13:31,980 trying to provide assistance really I'm 2767 02:13:37,850 --> 02:13:34,920 trying to help I'm trying to do a good 2768 02:13:40,069 --> 02:13:37,860 job for them a professional job a 2769 02:13:41,629 --> 02:13:40,079 scientific job and they don't seem to 2770 02:13:44,270 --> 02:13:41,639 want it 2771 02:13:47,270 --> 02:13:44,280 um because it might not 2772 02:13:49,030 --> 02:13:47,280 work for what they've already decided is 2773 02:13:51,530 --> 02:13:49,040 the truth that we're supposed to accept 2774 02:13:53,209 --> 02:13:51,540 so I don't know what the answer is 2775 02:13:56,030 --> 02:13:53,219 frankly 2776 02:13:58,550 --> 02:13:56,040 um but all I can say is is you know I'm 2777 02:14:02,089 --> 02:13:58,560 not going to say something especially as 2778 02:14:04,550 --> 02:14:02,099 adamantly and forcefully as I do unless 2779 02:14:06,890 --> 02:14:04,560 I'm 100 right that I have the evidence 2780 02:14:08,810 --> 02:14:06,900 to support it that I could defend it in 2781 02:14:11,510 --> 02:14:08,820 a court of law under oath under the 2782 02:14:13,910 --> 02:14:11,520 toughest you know prick lawyer you wanna 2783 02:14:18,430 --> 02:14:13,920 you wanna put up I'm ready to do that 2784 02:14:21,169 --> 02:14:18,440 when it comes to these artifacts and and 2785 02:14:23,530 --> 02:14:21,179 why does why isn't that compelling to 2786 02:14:26,950 --> 02:14:23,540 Academia I don't I don't understand well 2787 02:14:31,970 --> 02:14:26,960 Scott here's the thing 2788 02:14:35,330 --> 02:14:31,980 the information now is is is flooding 2789 02:14:38,750 --> 02:14:35,340 out it's public it's shareable it's 2790 02:14:41,330 --> 02:14:38,760 instantaneous it's worldwide 30 years 2791 02:14:45,350 --> 02:14:41,340 ago they were still able to control 2792 02:14:47,410 --> 02:14:45,360 everything they can't control it now you 2793 02:14:51,830 --> 02:14:47,420 know how many people know about you know 2794 02:14:56,390 --> 02:14:51,840 this the simple thing like Gobekli tappy 2795 02:15:00,109 --> 02:14:56,400 yeah right which until 1995 the only 2796 02:15:03,530 --> 02:15:00,119 thing that was ever spoken about was 2797 02:15:06,109 --> 02:15:03,540 3000 BC right that was the number three 2798 02:15:09,290 --> 02:15:06,119 thousand BC nothing before that there's 2799 02:15:12,890 --> 02:15:09,300 no conversation to have here that's it 2800 02:15:16,149 --> 02:15:12,900 well now we know clearly that that is 2801 02:15:18,709 --> 02:15:16,159 not the case now push that back another 2802 02:15:22,430 --> 02:15:18,719 789 10 2803 02:15:25,250 --> 02:15:22,440 000 years before Giza before ancient 2804 02:15:26,990 --> 02:15:25,260 Sumer before Mesopotamia so the 2805 02:15:30,830 --> 02:15:27,000 confrontation has changed they don't 2806 02:15:34,189 --> 02:15:30,840 have control like they had before and 2807 02:15:37,010 --> 02:15:34,199 and I I think clearly that's the case as 2808 02:15:39,589 --> 02:15:37,020 we move forward here the information is 2809 02:15:42,649 --> 02:15:39,599 going to continue to come out they may 2810 02:15:44,990 --> 02:15:42,659 not want to reprint history books they 2811 02:15:47,390 --> 02:15:45,000 may not want to do it but what choice do 2812 02:15:49,669 --> 02:15:47,400 they have why not I mean you know that 2813 02:15:52,729 --> 02:15:49,679 is the that is the dumbest thing I've 2814 02:15:54,290 --> 02:15:52,739 ever heard they you know what that means 2815 02:15:56,689 --> 02:15:54,300 they have to change the history books 2816 02:15:59,390 --> 02:15:56,699 well for F's sake then just change them 2817 02:16:01,790 --> 02:15:59,400 well oh my God go ahead and put and 2818 02:16:03,890 --> 02:16:01,800 republish them the bottom line is get it 2819 02:16:06,530 --> 02:16:03,900 right I mean what is the what's the 2820 02:16:09,109 --> 02:16:06,540 problem here I don't yeah well you know 2821 02:16:11,450 --> 02:16:09,119 you have the church you have the Bible 2822 02:16:13,669 --> 02:16:11,460 you have the Vatican you have different 2823 02:16:15,229 --> 02:16:13,679 belief systems not only with the Vatican 2824 02:16:17,629 --> 02:16:15,239 but you've got China that comes into 2825 02:16:20,870 --> 02:16:17,639 play you've got Russia that comes into 2826 02:16:23,149 --> 02:16:20,880 play uh the you know different uh 2827 02:16:26,270 --> 02:16:23,159 cultures around the world that have been 2828 02:16:28,689 --> 02:16:26,280 uh projecting a dog I keep saying Dogma 2829 02:16:32,810 --> 02:16:28,699 but that's what it is it's just oh it is 2830 02:16:35,629 --> 02:16:32,820 yes right word yeah yeah and you keep 2831 02:16:37,270 --> 02:16:35,639 repeating and and if this uh starts to 2832 02:16:40,549 --> 02:16:37,280 blow out of the water 2833 02:16:43,009 --> 02:16:40,559 uh yeah yeah it's it's not in the best 2834 02:16:47,990 --> 02:16:43,019 interest of of some of the belief 2835 02:16:50,150 --> 02:16:48,000 systems that are so ingrained right well 2836 02:16:52,969 --> 02:16:50,160 you know the thing is you you make a 2837 02:16:55,610 --> 02:16:52,979 good point that uh this information is 2838 02:16:57,589 --> 02:16:55,620 getting out there right the media 2839 02:17:00,349 --> 02:16:57,599 um is is projecting this there's all 2840 02:17:02,030 --> 02:17:00,359 kinds of platforms that are out there I 2841 02:17:05,389 --> 02:17:02,040 mean people have 2842 02:17:07,790 --> 02:17:05,399 all the answers right here right and 2843 02:17:10,549 --> 02:17:07,800 so I think it makes it harder for these 2844 02:17:13,429 --> 02:17:10,559 academics to sit in their little uh 2845 02:17:16,009 --> 02:17:13,439 world and pontificate and publish their 2846 02:17:18,469 --> 02:17:16,019 papers and control the narrative and 2847 02:17:20,570 --> 02:17:18,479 this is the history and you know and 2848 02:17:23,629 --> 02:17:20,580 that's it but 2849 02:17:25,490 --> 02:17:23,639 instead of being more vocal now that 2850 02:17:27,950 --> 02:17:25,500 people are out there and and they're 2851 02:17:29,509 --> 02:17:27,960 pushing back a little bit what I'm 2852 02:17:32,450 --> 02:17:29,519 finding is they're just not saying 2853 02:17:33,110 --> 02:17:32,460 anything they've just gone dark 2854 02:17:35,150 --> 02:17:33,120 um 2855 02:17:37,190 --> 02:17:35,160 what are they going to do they can't 2856 02:17:39,169 --> 02:17:37,200 keep arguing a point that's not valid 2857 02:17:42,230 --> 02:17:39,179 right so 2858 02:17:44,389 --> 02:17:42,240 they just they don't say anything and 2859 02:17:45,110 --> 02:17:44,399 I'm not sure if that's good or bad I 2860 02:17:47,209 --> 02:17:45,120 mean 2861 02:17:50,750 --> 02:17:47,219 there Comes A Time To You know to shut 2862 02:17:52,849 --> 02:17:50,760 your mouth but I think we need we need 2863 02:17:55,009 --> 02:17:52,859 them to participate we need them to 2864 02:17:56,509 --> 02:17:55,019 weigh in frankly I think what they need 2865 02:17:58,910 --> 02:17:56,519 to do is listen 2866 02:18:01,910 --> 02:17:58,920 and learn a little bit because clearly 2867 02:18:04,429 --> 02:18:01,920 they got it wrong and I don't you know 2868 02:18:06,889 --> 02:18:04,439 I'm not necessarily here to try to rub 2869 02:18:08,570 --> 02:18:06,899 their nose in it although you know some 2870 02:18:11,929 --> 02:18:08,580 of the people I've interacted with sure 2871 02:18:13,429 --> 02:18:11,939 deserve it yes I certainly do yeah I'd 2872 02:18:15,230 --> 02:18:13,439 like to help them I mean I think we can 2873 02:18:17,389 --> 02:18:15,240 bring something to the table that they 2874 02:18:19,190 --> 02:18:17,399 don't have and 2875 02:18:21,530 --> 02:18:19,200 maybe they're sitting on stuff that 2876 02:18:22,910 --> 02:18:21,540 would would you know help us that we 2877 02:18:25,490 --> 02:18:22,920 don't know about it's called 2878 02:18:27,049 --> 02:18:25,500 collaboration and 2879 02:18:29,150 --> 02:18:27,059 um you know that's when things really 2880 02:18:29,810 --> 02:18:29,160 get done I got to tell you 2881 02:18:32,929 --> 02:18:29,820 um 2882 02:18:35,629 --> 02:18:32,939 you know dick Nielsen was was a uh was a 2883 02:18:38,030 --> 02:18:35,639 linguist and he understood you know the 2884 02:18:40,070 --> 02:18:38,040 the 14th century language and the 2885 02:18:41,629 --> 02:18:40,080 palatalar the dialect the grammar all 2886 02:18:43,070 --> 02:18:41,639 that stuff on the runestone better than 2887 02:18:45,169 --> 02:18:43,080 anyone in the world 2888 02:18:47,509 --> 02:18:45,179 but it was the collaboration of us 2889 02:18:50,330 --> 02:18:47,519 working together 2890 02:18:52,969 --> 02:18:50,340 uh the geological work that I did the 2891 02:18:55,669 --> 02:18:52,979 photo library that that found all these 2892 02:18:58,070 --> 02:18:55,679 mysterious dots and and punch marks that 2893 02:18:59,870 --> 02:18:58,080 the Carver added intentionally that 2894 02:19:01,310 --> 02:18:59,880 eventually we think we figured out that 2895 02:19:03,469 --> 02:19:01,320 these were 2896 02:19:06,709 --> 02:19:03,479 um hidden codes 2897 02:19:09,950 --> 02:19:06,719 um a dating code The Grail code a 2898 02:19:11,690 --> 02:19:09,960 confirmation codes there was all kinds 2899 02:19:13,490 --> 02:19:11,700 of stuff but nobody ever saw him before 2900 02:19:16,549 --> 02:19:13,500 because nobody ever looked carefully 2901 02:19:19,009 --> 02:19:16,559 right but I found a lot of the physical 2902 02:19:22,490 --> 02:19:19,019 features he was the one that told me 2903 02:19:24,650 --> 02:19:22,500 what they were and in addition to the 2904 02:19:26,750 --> 02:19:24,660 dotted R which nobody had noticed prior 2905 02:19:27,830 --> 02:19:26,760 to the work we did there was something 2906 02:19:29,570 --> 02:19:27,840 called 2907 02:19:32,389 --> 02:19:29,580 um the word har 2908 02:19:34,910 --> 02:19:32,399 the word har was the one piece of 2909 02:19:37,910 --> 02:19:34,920 linguistic evidence that they've they 2910 02:19:40,490 --> 02:19:37,920 the scholars used for over a century to 2911 02:19:42,469 --> 02:19:40,500 beat the runestone up with because the 2912 02:19:43,490 --> 02:19:42,479 word har is actually a modern Swedish 2913 02:19:46,849 --> 02:19:43,500 word 2914 02:19:49,670 --> 02:19:46,859 but when I was doing my photo study I 2915 02:19:52,070 --> 02:19:49,680 took over 650 photographs under high 2916 02:19:54,469 --> 02:19:52,080 angle and low angle reflected light to 2917 02:19:56,210 --> 02:19:54,479 pull out the three-dimensionality of the 2918 02:19:58,730 --> 02:19:56,220 inscription and that's where I found all 2919 02:20:01,610 --> 02:19:58,740 these marks and every time I found a 2920 02:20:04,010 --> 02:20:01,620 curious dot somewhere a little stroke I 2921 02:20:06,950 --> 02:20:04,020 put it in a separate folder 2922 02:20:08,210 --> 02:20:06,960 and when when dick got to this hook 2923 02:20:10,790 --> 02:20:08,220 decks 2924 02:20:13,550 --> 02:20:10,800 I said there were two dots above it 2925 02:20:16,310 --> 02:20:13,560 and he said are you sure about that I 2926 02:20:17,810 --> 02:20:16,320 said I'm sure as hell those are two 2927 02:20:19,490 --> 02:20:17,820 man-made dots 2928 02:20:22,250 --> 02:20:19,500 if you go back and you look at the 2929 02:20:24,889 --> 02:20:22,260 literature all the scholars nobody saw 2930 02:20:26,929 --> 02:20:24,899 those dots 2931 02:20:31,130 --> 02:20:26,939 but what was significant about those 2932 02:20:33,290 --> 02:20:31,140 dots is it changed the word from har 2933 02:20:36,290 --> 02:20:33,300 to hair 2934 02:20:39,170 --> 02:20:36,300 in English it's have 10 men by the 2935 02:20:42,230 --> 02:20:39,180 Inland sea to look after our ships now 2936 02:20:43,910 --> 02:20:42,240 it's there are Ten Men by the Inland sea 2937 02:20:45,950 --> 02:20:43,920 to look after right that's two different 2938 02:20:50,510 --> 02:20:45,960 things well it's two different things 2939 02:20:54,349 --> 02:20:50,520 but what's important is heart a hair is 2940 02:20:56,630 --> 02:20:54,359 an old Swedish word so now the one piece 2941 02:21:00,230 --> 02:20:56,640 of evidence the one modern word that was 2942 02:21:02,090 --> 02:21:00,240 on the inscription is gone 2943 02:21:04,510 --> 02:21:02,100 they got nothing left 2944 02:21:06,830 --> 02:21:04,520 so let's have a party man 2945 02:21:08,750 --> 02:21:06,840 yeah yeah yeah yeah I think that's a 2946 02:21:10,849 --> 02:21:08,760 really good point and 2947 02:21:18,610 --> 02:21:10,859 um if we 2948 02:21:20,510 --> 02:21:18,620 it's about it's about this all right 2949 02:21:22,849 --> 02:21:20,520 Atlantis 2950 02:21:25,790 --> 02:21:22,859 and I just want you to stay with me on 2951 02:21:28,910 --> 02:21:25,800 this this thought so far man I mean it 2952 02:21:32,090 --> 02:21:28,920 used to be Robert shock says it's so 2953 02:21:34,070 --> 02:21:32,100 elegantly right it used to be aliens if 2954 02:21:36,349 --> 02:21:34,080 you were a professional scholar you 2955 02:21:38,690 --> 02:21:36,359 couldn't say aliens right good night 2956 02:21:41,690 --> 02:21:38,700 good night you were done your 2957 02:21:44,570 --> 02:21:41,700 credibility was destroyed now now it's 2958 02:21:47,210 --> 02:21:44,580 okay yeah right it's like aliens are are 2959 02:21:50,030 --> 02:21:47,220 the cool thing to talk about but the 2960 02:21:52,670 --> 02:21:50,040 other thing is Atlantis 2961 02:21:55,429 --> 02:21:52,680 and the more that we push this dating 2962 02:21:59,630 --> 02:21:55,439 back and it keeps unfolding let me tell 2963 02:22:02,510 --> 02:21:59,640 you something about Atlantis 10 500 BC 2964 02:22:05,270 --> 02:22:02,520 that's a crucial number but that number 2965 02:22:08,030 --> 02:22:05,280 is just about in every culture on this 2966 02:22:12,170 --> 02:22:08,040 planet for different reasons 2967 02:22:16,969 --> 02:22:12,180 10 500 BC you go to abados and you go to 2968 02:22:19,969 --> 02:22:16,979 the historical text and you go uh uh to 2969 02:22:23,990 --> 02:22:19,979 um edfu and you start to look at these 2970 02:22:27,650 --> 02:22:24,000 uh these stories where Plato visiting 2971 02:22:30,170 --> 02:22:27,660 Egypt hears about Atlantis right here's 2972 02:22:34,250 --> 02:22:30,180 the story what's the date 2973 02:22:38,090 --> 02:22:34,260 ten thousand five hundred and now the 2974 02:22:40,490 --> 02:22:38,100 independent research of Robert shock is 2975 02:22:43,450 --> 02:22:40,500 something else that is weathering and 2976 02:22:45,670 --> 02:22:43,460 that's you know that's a Geo situation 2977 02:22:53,690 --> 02:22:45,680 right 2978 02:22:57,469 --> 02:22:53,700 that's a Geo situation the 10 500 we're 2979 02:23:00,110 --> 02:22:57,479 talking about uh astronomy uh the end of 2980 02:23:02,870 --> 02:23:00,120 the last ice age listen to Randall 2981 02:23:04,969 --> 02:23:02,880 Carlson talk about this and that this 2982 02:23:07,250 --> 02:23:04,979 number is significant for a lot of 2983 02:23:08,349 --> 02:23:07,260 different reasons but what outsurfaces 2984 02:23:17,570 --> 02:23:08,359 here 2985 02:23:18,710 --> 02:23:17,580 have to start to face the music on this 2986 02:23:22,070 --> 02:23:18,720 one 2987 02:23:24,710 --> 02:23:22,080 um before it was 3000 BC right three 2988 02:23:27,469 --> 02:23:24,720 times now we have Gobekli Tepe we've got 2989 02:23:29,990 --> 02:23:27,479 the edfu and abados building tax we've 2990 02:23:33,050 --> 02:23:30,000 got the uh the the Sphinx and the Sphinx 2991 02:23:35,270 --> 02:23:33,060 enclosure we've got astronomy uh we've 2992 02:23:37,070 --> 02:23:35,280 got Olive Randall Carlson's research on 2993 02:23:39,849 --> 02:23:37,080 this and this number keeps popping back 2994 02:23:44,870 --> 02:23:39,859 up Atlanta 2995 02:23:46,730 --> 02:23:44,880 right yeah something big happened and 2996 02:23:49,849 --> 02:23:46,740 and there's a reason why that that 2997 02:23:53,090 --> 02:23:49,859 number keeps popping up and you know 2998 02:23:55,190 --> 02:23:53,100 going back to Atlantis for a second 2999 02:23:57,490 --> 02:23:55,200 um I've talked to people about that and 3000 02:24:03,110 --> 02:23:57,500 you know some people say that Atlantis 3001 02:24:09,170 --> 02:24:05,150 um I talked to other people who say that 3002 02:24:12,410 --> 02:24:09,180 Atlantis isn't a place at all it's a 3003 02:24:13,849 --> 02:24:12,420 high culture of humanoids that live that 3004 02:24:16,010 --> 02:24:13,859 lived 3005 02:24:18,469 --> 02:24:16,020 um prior to that number that you're 3006 02:24:19,730 --> 02:24:18,479 talking about ten thousand five hundred 3007 02:24:24,590 --> 02:24:19,740 yeah 3008 02:24:28,370 --> 02:24:24,600 BC talking about 12 500 BP before 3009 02:24:30,590 --> 02:24:28,380 present yes and so 3010 02:24:32,929 --> 02:24:30,600 I personally think it was a high culture 3011 02:24:35,330 --> 02:24:32,939 I don't think it was a place 3012 02:24:36,170 --> 02:24:35,340 um so the question is who were these 3013 02:24:39,469 --> 02:24:36,180 people 3014 02:24:41,990 --> 02:24:39,479 and how did they connect with us and 3015 02:24:43,490 --> 02:24:42,000 what happened to them why is this number 3016 02:24:45,290 --> 02:24:43,500 12-5 3017 02:24:47,510 --> 02:24:45,300 BP 3018 02:24:49,929 --> 02:24:47,520 why does it keep coming up what is 3019 02:24:52,730 --> 02:24:49,939 significant about it why is it important 3020 02:24:53,690 --> 02:24:52,740 something happened something big 3021 02:24:55,550 --> 02:24:53,700 happened 3022 02:24:58,610 --> 02:24:55,560 and there's a lot of theories that are 3023 02:25:00,950 --> 02:24:58,620 out there Robert shock has his ideas uh 3024 02:25:04,130 --> 02:25:00,960 Graham Hancock has his ideas are other 3025 02:25:05,990 --> 02:25:04,140 people Randall certainly weighs in 3026 02:25:08,870 --> 02:25:06,000 um to be honest with you the people I 3027 02:25:12,830 --> 02:25:08,880 trust the most are the rockheads Robert 3028 02:25:16,010 --> 02:25:12,840 and uh and Randall but um something 3029 02:25:20,570 --> 02:25:16,020 significant happened there that impacted 3030 02:25:22,250 --> 02:25:20,580 this culture that we call Atlantis and 3031 02:25:24,110 --> 02:25:22,260 um I I think it's a really really 3032 02:25:26,990 --> 02:25:24,120 important thing to get to the bottom of 3033 02:25:30,290 --> 02:25:27,000 well but here's the thing all right well 3034 02:25:32,990 --> 02:25:30,300 you want to talk rock head stuff all of 3035 02:25:35,450 --> 02:25:33,000 the Atlantis and this and high 3036 02:25:38,570 --> 02:25:35,460 technology and culture okay that's all 3037 02:25:41,450 --> 02:25:38,580 fringy science fiction gobbley [\h__\h] 3038 02:25:45,050 --> 02:25:41,460 really right until you have evidence 3039 02:25:47,710 --> 02:25:45,060 right that evidence is freaking gobekly 3040 02:25:52,969 --> 02:25:47,720 tappy yeah 3041 02:25:56,030 --> 02:25:52,979 dates to 10th at least a 10 500 BC 3042 02:25:59,330 --> 02:25:56,040 wait a minute here this is this is not a 3043 02:26:01,610 --> 02:25:59,340 coincidence and the point being 3044 02:26:04,309 --> 02:26:01,620 um that the professional geological 3045 02:26:06,590 --> 02:26:04,319 Association when they met in San Diego 3046 02:26:08,450 --> 02:26:06,600 and got into that blowout fight with 3047 02:26:12,530 --> 02:26:08,460 Robert shock uh during that press 3048 02:26:15,469 --> 02:26:12,540 conference when they said look man 3049 02:26:18,950 --> 02:26:15,479 um the show was one thing that's 3050 02:26:22,130 --> 02:26:18,960 megalithic before 3000 BC and we'll have 3051 02:26:24,429 --> 02:26:22,140 a conversation but until then the facts 3052 02:26:26,950 --> 02:26:24,439 stay where they are how about ball back 3053 02:26:29,510 --> 02:26:26,960 what what 3054 02:26:31,790 --> 02:26:29,520 if that's another consideration thank 3055 02:26:34,790 --> 02:26:31,800 you for bringing that up but what what 3056 02:26:36,770 --> 02:26:34,800 is when Klaus Schmidt 3057 02:26:39,770 --> 02:26:36,780 um did his analysis on go back with 3058 02:26:42,410 --> 02:26:39,780 happy in 1995. that's a game changer but 3059 02:26:46,270 --> 02:26:42,420 it's a game changer by 8 000 years yeah 3060 02:26:49,849 --> 02:26:46,280 you know a thousand years is a big deal 3061 02:26:53,690 --> 02:26:49,859 eight thousand and Scott the number is 3062 02:26:56,150 --> 02:26:53,700 the same that is presented over over and 3063 02:27:00,230 --> 02:26:56,160 over again around the world but here's 3064 02:27:02,870 --> 02:27:00,240 the thing that number of 12 5 or 10 5 or 3065 02:27:05,450 --> 02:27:02,880 whatever you want to say that goes back 3066 02:27:09,170 --> 02:27:05,460 to the same time period at Gobekli Tepe 3067 02:27:12,830 --> 02:27:09,180 my understanding is that is when Gobekli 3068 02:27:15,770 --> 02:27:12,840 Tepe was covered up that's right okay 3069 02:27:17,809 --> 02:27:15,780 well if it was covered up that means it 3070 02:27:20,450 --> 02:27:17,819 existed before that yeah yeah yeah yeah 3071 02:27:23,270 --> 02:27:20,460 what does it go that's what I'm saying 3072 02:27:26,210 --> 02:27:23,280 so it's at least it's at least twelve 3073 02:27:28,910 --> 02:27:26,220 five people yeah it's at least 3074 02:27:31,309 --> 02:27:28,920 um there is some speculation uh right 3075 02:27:33,590 --> 02:27:31,319 now uh remember they've used ground 3076 02:27:36,290 --> 02:27:33,600 penetrating radar they've got at least 3077 02:27:39,889 --> 02:27:36,300 okay here's the thing they've got 25 3078 02:27:41,929 --> 02:27:39,899 other Stone circles that are there now 3079 02:27:44,030 --> 02:27:41,939 they're at the top level every time you 3080 02:27:46,250 --> 02:27:44,040 go down you're getting older that's 3081 02:27:48,230 --> 02:27:46,260 number one number two the law it's 3082 02:27:50,150 --> 02:27:48,240 called the law of superposition right 3083 02:27:53,690 --> 02:27:50,160 that's right the wrong superposition and 3084 02:27:57,290 --> 02:27:53,700 then they found 11 more uh Happy's 3085 02:28:00,429 --> 02:27:57,300 gobekly tepes encircling uh Gobekli 3086 02:28:04,550 --> 02:28:00,439 Tempe so there's 12 tepies right now 3087 02:28:06,950 --> 02:28:04,560 this this this changes things and why 3088 02:28:08,929 --> 02:28:06,960 here's the thing we'll discuss this when 3089 02:28:12,590 --> 02:28:08,939 we come back after the break 3090 02:28:14,990 --> 02:28:12,600 why deliberately bury it 3091 02:28:16,790 --> 02:28:15,000 why were you did you know something 3092 02:28:18,110 --> 02:28:16,800 catastrophic was going to happen you 3093 02:28:20,510 --> 02:28:18,120 needed to leave and you were going to 3094 02:28:23,809 --> 02:28:20,520 return and you never did 3095 02:28:27,469 --> 02:28:23,819 it's pretty strange what's what's the 3096 02:28:31,910 --> 02:28:27,479 reason for doing the backfill and and 3097 02:28:33,770 --> 02:28:31,920 and burying it I I still I I I I have 3098 02:28:35,690 --> 02:28:33,780 some thoughts on that but we'll wait 3099 02:28:37,250 --> 02:28:35,700 till after the break yeah let's take our 3100 02:28:38,990 --> 02:28:37,260 break right here this is Fade to Black 3101 02:28:41,570 --> 02:28:39,000 I'm your host Jimmy church tonight the 3102 02:28:42,889 --> 02:28:41,580 one and only Scott Walter I'm Yours 3103 02:28:45,830 --> 02:28:42,899 Jimmy church we'll be right back after 3104 02:28:47,450 --> 02:28:45,840 this short break Scott's with us won 3105 02:28:49,429 --> 02:28:47,460 because it's always a great conversation 3106 02:28:51,950 --> 02:28:49,439 but number two 3107 02:28:53,990 --> 02:28:51,960 he's one of my guests on into the Vortex 3108 02:28:56,090 --> 02:28:54,000 you can check out season one right now 3109 02:28:57,790 --> 02:28:56,100 and the link below we'll be right back 3110 02:29:12,760 --> 02:28:57,800 stay with us 3111 02:29:14,060 --> 02:29:12,770 [Music] 3112 02:29:22,070 --> 02:29:14,070 [Applause] 3113 02:29:33,349 --> 02:29:24,530 you're listening to Jimmy church and 3114 02:29:40,370 --> 02:29:35,870 Le are listening to my boy 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paranormal 3200 02:33:35,630 --> 02:33:33,660 talk entertainment including the network 3201 02:33:38,510 --> 02:33:35,640 you're listening to right now the 3202 02:33:47,080 --> 02:33:38,520 Paranormal radio app free in Google Play 3203 02:33:52,670 --> 02:33:49,070 [Music] 3204 02:33:56,630 --> 02:33:52,680 it's not a lifestyle we chose we were 3205 02:33:59,870 --> 02:33:56,640 born this way this is kjcr at Jimmy 3206 02:34:10,730 --> 02:34:01,250 foreign 3207 02:34:14,510 --> 02:34:12,250 [Music] 3208 02:34:15,950 --> 02:34:14,520 Welcome Back Fade to Black I'm Yours 3209 02:34:18,290 --> 02:34:15,960 Timmy Church 3210 02:34:20,330 --> 02:34:18,300 and I'm in a great mood I can't breathe 3211 02:34:23,210 --> 02:34:20,340 but I'm in a great mood because I've got 3212 02:34:25,910 --> 02:34:23,220 Scott Walter here and today was the 3213 02:34:29,809 --> 02:34:25,920 premiere of into the Vortex on Gaia TV 3214 02:34:31,309 --> 02:34:29,819 season one episode one is is airing 3215 02:34:33,830 --> 02:34:31,319 right now you can click on the link 3216 02:34:36,530 --> 02:34:33,840 below and go and check it out I do want 3217 02:34:39,410 --> 02:34:36,540 to hear from everybody uh uh your 3218 02:34:42,710 --> 02:34:39,420 feedback and and stuff and and what you 3219 02:34:44,389 --> 02:34:42,720 uh what you thought about it now uh 3220 02:34:47,150 --> 02:34:44,399 let's get back to what we were just 3221 02:34:48,710 --> 02:34:47,160 talking about Scott 3222 02:34:50,330 --> 02:34:48,720 um I'm giving you the heads up that 3223 02:34:53,750 --> 02:34:50,340 we're going live so take off your 3224 02:34:56,389 --> 02:34:53,760 glasses I'm here baby I'm ready just 3225 02:34:58,010 --> 02:34:56,399 gotta try to look young I took my 3226 02:34:59,630 --> 02:34:58,020 glasses off 3227 02:35:02,150 --> 02:34:59,640 hmm 3228 02:35:02,929 --> 02:35:02,160 oh that's it no response see I'll do 3229 02:35:05,510 --> 02:35:02,939 this 3230 02:35:07,389 --> 02:35:05,520 I was just added 10 years I added 10 3231 02:35:10,790 --> 02:35:07,399 years to my age 3232 02:35:12,530 --> 02:35:10,800 so you know you look smart man 3233 02:35:15,530 --> 02:35:12,540 makes you look good 3234 02:35:17,210 --> 02:35:15,540 okay smoking mirrors okay IQ just went 3235 02:35:19,790 --> 02:35:17,220 up by 10. 3236 02:35:28,910 --> 02:35:21,650 why 3237 02:35:30,230 --> 02:35:28,920 well 3238 02:35:33,230 --> 02:35:30,240 um 3239 02:35:37,070 --> 02:35:33,240 something catastrophic was going on 3240 02:35:38,929 --> 02:35:37,080 something happened and you know 3241 02:35:41,210 --> 02:35:38,939 I'll just tell you a story this is 3242 02:35:44,150 --> 02:35:41,220 probably about 3243 02:35:44,990 --> 02:35:44,160 maybe six years ago now I maybe six or 3244 02:35:47,090 --> 02:35:45,000 seven 3245 02:35:49,610 --> 02:35:47,100 I was at a conference 3246 02:35:50,929 --> 02:35:49,620 Graham Hancock was there Robert shock 3247 02:35:52,490 --> 02:35:50,939 was there 3248 02:35:53,809 --> 02:35:52,500 and they were talking about this very 3249 02:35:56,330 --> 02:35:53,819 thing 3250 02:35:58,849 --> 02:35:56,340 and the two of them 3251 02:36:03,230 --> 02:35:58,859 each had a different 3252 02:36:05,929 --> 02:36:03,240 theory about what happened what what 3253 02:36:12,290 --> 02:36:08,990 um Graham's thesis and I'm paraphrasing 3254 02:36:15,410 --> 02:36:12,300 and I apologize to both of them if I I 3255 02:36:17,030 --> 02:36:15,420 don't quite articulate it perfectly but 3256 02:36:18,950 --> 02:36:17,040 I I just want to preface this whole 3257 02:36:22,250 --> 02:36:18,960 thing Jimmy and I know you feel the same 3258 02:36:23,630 --> 02:36:22,260 way I respect the hell out of these guys 3259 02:36:25,190 --> 02:36:23,640 um I think they're some of the most 3260 02:36:26,330 --> 02:36:25,200 Brilliant Minds walking on the planet 3261 02:36:29,510 --> 02:36:26,340 right now 3262 02:36:31,969 --> 02:36:29,520 and and at this conference 3263 02:36:36,410 --> 02:36:31,979 Graham made the argument that there was 3264 02:36:39,290 --> 02:36:36,420 a large extraterrestrial uh meteorite or 3265 02:36:40,610 --> 02:36:39,300 comet impact that hit the earth that 3266 02:36:42,770 --> 02:36:40,620 caused 3267 02:36:43,610 --> 02:36:42,780 a catastrophe 3268 02:36:47,210 --> 02:36:43,620 um 3269 02:36:49,969 --> 02:36:47,220 and basically lowered the the worldwide 3270 02:36:52,429 --> 02:36:49,979 temperature uh drove people underground 3271 02:36:55,010 --> 02:36:52,439 and the rest just died 3272 02:36:56,389 --> 02:36:55,020 it was a it was a it was a catastrophic 3273 02:36:58,849 --> 02:36:56,399 event that was caused by an 3274 02:37:01,610 --> 02:36:58,859 extraterrestrial impact and he went into 3275 02:37:03,469 --> 02:37:01,620 great details about how it hit at a low 3276 02:37:04,929 --> 02:37:03,479 angle and this caused more damage and 3277 02:37:09,830 --> 02:37:04,939 everything else and that was very 3278 02:37:11,990 --> 02:37:09,840 plausible and certainly possible 3279 02:37:15,950 --> 02:37:12,000 um Robert on the other hand argued that 3280 02:37:19,730 --> 02:37:15,960 there was an increase in solar activity 3281 02:37:21,170 --> 02:37:19,740 that the atmosphere was bombarded 3282 02:37:23,630 --> 02:37:21,180 um with 3283 02:37:26,270 --> 02:37:23,640 different types of radiation that 3284 02:37:29,090 --> 02:37:26,280 essentially caused 3285 02:37:31,730 --> 02:37:29,100 um lightning strikes to develop in the 3286 02:37:34,570 --> 02:37:31,740 atmosphere and strike the Earth uh in 3287 02:37:37,250 --> 02:37:34,580 some cases that were a mile wide right 3288 02:37:41,450 --> 02:37:37,260 the evidence that he talked about was 3289 02:37:43,610 --> 02:37:41,460 this vitrified glass that occurs at you 3290 02:37:46,370 --> 02:37:43,620 know basically all around the earth and 3291 02:37:49,809 --> 02:37:46,380 it dates to the same time period right 3292 02:37:54,590 --> 02:37:49,819 around 12 5 12 3293 02:37:56,630 --> 02:37:54,600 500 years BP now Graham's number was 3294 02:37:59,650 --> 02:37:56,640 different and I don't remember exactly 3295 02:38:03,290 --> 02:37:59,660 what it was but they were off by about 3296 02:38:06,650 --> 02:38:03,300 500 to 750 years yeah that's right 3297 02:38:08,210 --> 02:38:06,660 that's right and so I remember I had a 3298 02:38:11,330 --> 02:38:08,220 conversation with both of them and I 3299 02:38:13,309 --> 02:38:11,340 said why can't you both be right 3300 02:38:15,469 --> 02:38:13,319 um because it was sort of a 3301 02:38:18,770 --> 02:38:15,479 and and to be quite Frank with you I 3302 02:38:20,750 --> 02:38:18,780 found a Robert's uh argument to be a 3303 02:38:22,730 --> 02:38:20,760 little more compelling at least if I had 3304 02:38:25,370 --> 02:38:22,740 to pick one or the other but they both 3305 02:38:27,290 --> 02:38:25,380 could certainly be true what conference 3306 02:38:29,389 --> 02:38:27,300 was this if you were true maybe they 3307 02:38:32,270 --> 02:38:29,399 both were true 3308 02:38:35,270 --> 02:38:32,280 was it in Denver it was in Denver yeah 3309 02:38:38,690 --> 02:38:35,280 okay do you remember that conference uh 3310 02:38:39,889 --> 02:38:38,700 I I did another conference with all of 3311 02:38:45,770 --> 02:38:39,899 us 3312 02:38:48,590 --> 02:38:45,780 wondering what conference I was in 3313 02:38:50,990 --> 02:38:48,600 Denver it was in Denver yeah okay and uh 3314 02:38:53,990 --> 02:38:51,000 but but see here's the thing okay let me 3315 02:38:56,090 --> 02:38:54,000 let me let me throw this 3316 02:38:58,730 --> 02:38:56,100 this idea out there 3317 02:39:02,690 --> 02:38:58,740 Maybe 3318 02:39:06,410 --> 02:39:02,700 they were preserving it 3319 02:39:08,630 --> 02:39:06,420 right that it's it's exactly yeah no 3320 02:39:13,070 --> 02:39:08,640 doubt about it no in my mind no doubt 3321 02:39:16,429 --> 02:39:13,080 about it they were they were 3322 02:39:20,809 --> 02:39:16,439 um allowing us to have access to a 3323 02:39:23,510 --> 02:39:20,819 perfectly preserved Moment In Time 3324 02:39:25,690 --> 02:39:23,520 right and I I think that is I think that 3325 02:39:29,330 --> 02:39:25,700 is compelling 3326 02:39:31,130 --> 02:39:29,340 no I I completely agree but I think 3327 02:39:32,330 --> 02:39:31,140 there's there's more to it than that 3328 02:39:34,550 --> 02:39:32,340 because 3329 02:39:37,610 --> 02:39:34,560 you know what we're what we're finding 3330 02:39:39,349 --> 02:39:37,620 out is Gobekli Tepe is you know it what 3331 02:39:41,330 --> 02:39:39,359 what's already been uncovered and what's 3332 02:39:43,910 --> 02:39:41,340 been studied 3333 02:39:47,809 --> 02:39:43,920 is amazing right I mean it's absolutely 3334 02:39:49,550 --> 02:39:47,819 one of the most amazing you know ancient 3335 02:39:52,250 --> 02:39:49,560 sites in the world I don't think anybody 3336 02:39:54,770 --> 02:39:52,260 would argue with that that is legitimate 3337 02:39:56,929 --> 02:39:54,780 but my understanding is they've only 3338 02:39:59,330 --> 02:39:56,939 uncovered about five to ten percent of 3339 02:40:01,969 --> 02:39:59,340 it that's right yeah yeah so there's a 3340 02:40:03,770 --> 02:40:01,979 lot more to be learned but it also begs 3341 02:40:06,230 --> 02:40:03,780 the question you just asked why would 3342 02:40:10,730 --> 02:40:06,240 they cover it up well the reason to me 3343 02:40:12,410 --> 02:40:10,740 is obvious it was important 3344 02:40:17,330 --> 02:40:12,420 um it was sacred 3345 02:40:19,969 --> 02:40:17,340 it was vital to the culture and it it 3346 02:40:22,910 --> 02:40:19,979 had to be preserved because it was a 3347 02:40:28,070 --> 02:40:22,920 Herculean task to cover it up 3348 02:40:30,530 --> 02:40:28,080 um and it's it it it had to be 3349 02:40:32,090 --> 02:40:30,540 of utmost important to whoever covered 3350 02:40:34,730 --> 02:40:32,100 it up because they wanted to preserve 3351 02:40:36,110 --> 02:40:34,740 this thing that they felt was was vital 3352 02:40:38,090 --> 02:40:36,120 to uh 3353 02:40:39,650 --> 02:40:38,100 to their to their beings to their 3354 02:40:44,270 --> 02:40:39,660 existence 3355 02:40:46,849 --> 02:40:44,280 the um the other part to this though I 3356 02:40:51,349 --> 02:40:46,859 keep swinging back to Atlantis and this 3357 02:40:57,410 --> 02:40:51,359 is why yep the knowledge 3358 02:41:02,270 --> 02:40:57,420 at 12 500 B BP 10 500 BC 3359 02:41:06,590 --> 02:41:02,280 the knowledge of organization of 3360 02:41:11,630 --> 02:41:06,600 government of community of agriculture 3361 02:41:14,210 --> 02:41:11,640 of engineering of quarrying and art were 3362 02:41:17,090 --> 02:41:14,220 not supposed to exist we're not supposed 3363 02:41:22,210 --> 02:41:17,100 to exist for another 8 000 years 8 000 3364 02:41:25,250 --> 02:41:22,220 years a thousand years so who taught 3365 02:41:27,710 --> 02:41:25,260 whoever made Gobekli Tepe and the other 3366 02:41:32,330 --> 02:41:27,720 ancient sites around there who taught 3367 02:41:36,290 --> 02:41:32,340 them the engineering astrology right 3368 02:41:39,410 --> 02:41:36,300 um uh agriculture Community this it was 3369 02:41:42,050 --> 02:41:39,420 supposed to be Stone Age man 3370 02:41:44,170 --> 02:41:42,060 and clearly that's not the case nobody 3371 02:41:49,309 --> 02:41:44,180 wants to talk about that 3372 02:41:53,570 --> 02:41:49,319 it's it's just like how how how how how 3373 02:41:55,969 --> 02:41:53,580 dumb do you think we are that we can go 3374 02:41:59,450 --> 02:41:55,979 and look at all of this and we can we 3375 02:42:01,849 --> 02:41:59,460 can we can obviously make out what is 3376 02:42:05,270 --> 02:42:01,859 obvious that's an advanced civilization 3377 02:42:07,730 --> 02:42:05,280 but you don't you don't 3378 02:42:12,110 --> 02:42:07,740 um Scott you don't imagine this stuff 3379 02:42:13,790 --> 02:42:12,120 and just do it everything is taught 3380 02:42:17,389 --> 02:42:13,800 somebody 3381 02:42:18,849 --> 02:42:17,399 a culture out there taught them how to 3382 02:42:21,170 --> 02:42:18,859 do these things 3383 02:42:24,110 --> 02:42:21,180 it's that simple there's no other way to 3384 02:42:26,330 --> 02:42:24,120 look at it well it was it was obvious 3385 02:42:28,670 --> 02:42:26,340 that that this the heavens were 3386 02:42:30,889 --> 02:42:28,680 important to them right because these 3387 02:42:33,770 --> 02:42:30,899 are these are uh 3388 02:42:35,210 --> 02:42:33,780 uh astronomical observatories as far as 3389 02:42:38,030 --> 02:42:35,220 I'm concerned I mean there's there's 3390 02:42:40,730 --> 02:42:38,040 more going on beyond that but that that 3391 02:42:43,130 --> 02:42:40,740 appears to be the primary function of 3392 02:42:44,870 --> 02:42:43,140 what was happening at Gobekli Tepe which 3393 02:42:46,490 --> 02:42:44,880 begs the question why was that so 3394 02:42:48,410 --> 02:42:46,500 important to him 3395 02:42:50,990 --> 02:42:48,420 um but this is something that we see 3396 02:42:55,010 --> 02:42:51,000 throughout in all cultures right this 3397 02:42:57,230 --> 02:42:55,020 whole concept of As Above So Below 3398 02:42:59,330 --> 02:42:57,240 um they understood that that what was 3399 02:43:03,530 --> 02:42:59,340 happening in the heavens was important 3400 02:43:06,050 --> 02:43:03,540 to what was happening down here and 3401 02:43:10,070 --> 02:43:06,060 um you know now we we have to start 3402 02:43:13,370 --> 02:43:10,080 talking about maybe it wasn't just the 3403 02:43:16,010 --> 02:43:13,380 Stars the moons the planets maybe there 3404 02:43:18,110 --> 02:43:16,020 were other things up there that um that 3405 02:43:20,809 --> 02:43:18,120 they were learning from maybe maybe 3406 02:43:21,410 --> 02:43:20,819 there were other 3407 02:43:25,190 --> 02:43:21,420 um 3408 02:43:27,650 --> 02:43:25,200 entities that yeah yeah that they 3409 02:43:28,969 --> 02:43:27,660 interacted with uh yeah yeah yeah yeah I 3410 02:43:33,290 --> 02:43:28,979 think we have to we have to look 3411 02:43:36,650 --> 02:43:33,300 seriously at that well when we uh I'll 3412 02:43:40,790 --> 02:43:36,660 go back to uh uh the building tax from 3413 02:43:45,610 --> 02:43:40,800 the Egyptians and where they discuss 3414 02:43:51,849 --> 02:43:45,620 um those that uh came uh before 3415 02:43:54,469 --> 02:43:51,859 and and started Egypt and that the uh 3416 02:43:56,090 --> 02:43:54,479 the discussion of possibly Atlantis and 3417 02:43:57,889 --> 02:43:56,100 what Plato was talking about in this 3418 02:44:00,050 --> 02:43:57,899 island civilization the survivors came 3419 02:44:02,110 --> 02:44:00,060 with their knowledge and and brought 3420 02:44:05,090 --> 02:44:02,120 that to Egypt 3421 02:44:08,510 --> 02:44:05,100 that's the example of 3422 02:44:11,870 --> 02:44:08,520 you are taught somebody teaches you 3423 02:44:14,090 --> 02:44:11,880 something you don't wake up one day 3424 02:44:16,370 --> 02:44:14,100 um and this goes for Mesopotamia too as 3425 02:44:18,889 --> 02:44:16,380 well you just don't wake up one day with 3426 02:44:23,389 --> 02:44:18,899 engineering law 3427 02:44:26,809 --> 02:44:23,399 um write music astronomy engineering uh 3428 02:44:29,870 --> 02:44:26,819 agriculture he's a community a Judicial 3429 02:44:32,750 --> 02:44:29,880 System you don't wake up one day with 3430 02:44:37,610 --> 02:44:32,760 all of that you know domesticated wheat 3431 02:44:40,370 --> 02:44:37,620 that's a big deal yeah you know um look 3432 02:44:43,070 --> 02:44:40,380 at you're you're asking the question 3433 02:44:46,130 --> 02:44:43,080 I'm gonna throw it back at you 3434 02:44:48,710 --> 02:44:46,140 what do you think explain it to me what 3435 02:44:50,210 --> 02:44:48,720 is your thesis how can this knowledge 3436 02:44:52,670 --> 02:44:50,220 have been passed on to these people 3437 02:44:56,510 --> 02:44:52,680 where did they get it what was your 3438 02:44:58,730 --> 02:44:56,520 thought my thought is uh uh 200 000 3439 02:45:02,330 --> 02:44:58,740 years ago I think that there was an 3440 02:45:06,730 --> 02:45:02,340 advanced culture uh 200 000 years ago 3441 02:45:11,389 --> 02:45:06,740 um and and that number is humans well 3442 02:45:14,389 --> 02:45:11,399 look Homo sapiens sapien appeared 3443 02:45:19,910 --> 02:45:14,399 out of nowhere 200 000 years ago okay 3444 02:45:24,710 --> 02:45:19,920 right and and our chromosomes our genes 3445 02:45:29,270 --> 02:45:24,720 were edited our DNA right and so we went 3446 02:45:33,610 --> 02:45:29,280 uh from uh 48 pairs uh to 46 pair of 3447 02:45:36,950 --> 02:45:33,620 chromosomes and how how does that happen 3448 02:45:41,170 --> 02:45:36,960 and the you know the missing link right 3449 02:45:44,809 --> 02:45:41,180 you are a handsome man right but you've 3450 02:45:48,290 --> 02:45:44,819 homo sapien sapien that version this 3451 02:45:50,630 --> 02:45:48,300 Adonis version of us that is Scott 3452 02:45:52,849 --> 02:45:50,640 Walter it's only been around for 200 000 3453 02:45:56,570 --> 02:45:52,859 years where's the evolution where's 3454 02:45:59,330 --> 02:45:56,580 Darwin come into play yeah we evolved we 3455 02:46:02,650 --> 02:45:59,340 didn't we just appeared but the the the 3456 02:46:07,309 --> 02:46:02,660 the the point that I keep going back to 3457 02:46:10,490 --> 02:46:07,319 is the Sumerian text uh sitchin the 3458 02:46:13,910 --> 02:46:10,500 Annunaki and these references that keep 3459 02:46:15,770 --> 02:46:13,920 going back to that number of 200 000 3460 02:46:18,110 --> 02:46:15,780 years ago I remember I had an 3461 02:46:21,889 --> 02:46:18,120 anthropologist on the show 3462 02:46:24,290 --> 02:46:21,899 um five or six years ago and PhD 3463 02:46:27,110 --> 02:46:24,300 Anthropologist real deal right doctor 3464 02:46:30,349 --> 02:46:27,120 and I said so what about and you know 3465 02:46:32,389 --> 02:46:30,359 200 you know 48 paired down to 46. you 3466 02:46:35,110 --> 02:46:32,399 know what his answer was 3467 02:46:38,210 --> 02:46:35,120 it just happened man 3468 02:46:39,290 --> 02:46:38,220 and I I said wait a minute and he goes 3469 02:46:42,770 --> 02:46:39,300 look you've got to understand 3470 02:46:44,990 --> 02:46:42,780 anthropology you know and we're not 3471 02:46:48,469 --> 02:46:45,000 going to go to some alien thing or some 3472 02:46:51,469 --> 02:46:48,479 time travelers that no no stuff happens 3473 02:46:54,469 --> 02:46:51,479 I go that's the best you can do that 3474 02:46:58,010 --> 02:46:54,479 that was his answer that was that was 3475 02:47:00,790 --> 02:46:58,020 his answer stuff happens and we accept 3476 02:47:06,290 --> 02:47:00,800 that in anthropology 3477 02:47:10,130 --> 02:47:06,300 well I so I I believe I believe that 3478 02:47:13,309 --> 02:47:10,140 there was a an advanced culture 3479 02:47:16,490 --> 02:47:13,319 um multiple times on Earth not just once 3480 02:47:18,889 --> 02:47:16,500 if if we go okay Earth is four and a 3481 02:47:22,190 --> 02:47:18,899 half billion years old this is my take 3482 02:47:25,130 --> 02:47:22,200 four and a half billion years old three 3483 02:47:27,790 --> 02:47:25,140 billion of those years we've had oxygen 3484 02:47:31,250 --> 02:47:27,800 you know before that molten crazy 3485 02:47:34,550 --> 02:47:31,260 atmosphere and the lava and whatever 3486 02:47:36,969 --> 02:47:34,560 okay all right I get that but for three 3487 02:47:41,570 --> 02:47:36,979 billion years do you know 3488 02:47:45,410 --> 02:47:41,580 do you have any uh concept of how many 3489 02:47:47,450 --> 02:47:45,420 years is three billion a million years 3490 02:47:50,450 --> 02:47:47,460 right and then you got to get to a 3491 02:47:54,050 --> 02:47:50,460 thousand million to get a thousand 3492 02:47:57,410 --> 02:47:54,060 million to get a billion and then times 3493 02:48:00,770 --> 02:47:57,420 that times three so you go you go uh 3494 02:48:04,130 --> 02:48:00,780 three billion years 200 thousand years 3495 02:48:07,610 --> 02:48:04,140 right homo sapien sapien 200 000 years 3496 02:48:11,030 --> 02:48:07,620 got us to you and I talking on on the 3497 02:48:14,510 --> 02:48:11,040 internet right 200 000 years and and 3498 02:48:17,630 --> 02:48:14,520 here we are 200 000 years on three 3499 02:48:21,110 --> 02:48:17,640 billion years is the width 3500 02:48:23,389 --> 02:48:21,120 of this guitar pick if that you can take 3501 02:48:26,929 --> 02:48:23,399 that if that so you can take that three 3502 02:48:29,330 --> 02:48:26,939 billion years and you can slice 200 000 3503 02:48:32,809 --> 02:48:29,340 years any time in there and the 3504 02:48:34,550 --> 02:48:32,819 civilization has come and gone yeah and 3505 02:48:36,290 --> 02:48:34,560 what about the evidence of that right 3506 02:48:38,510 --> 02:48:36,300 wait a minute man 3507 02:48:41,270 --> 02:48:38,520 you wouldn't have the evidence of any 3508 02:48:45,410 --> 02:48:41,280 Mother Nature will wipe out North 3509 02:48:47,690 --> 02:48:45,420 America to nothingness in 50 000 years 3510 02:48:50,990 --> 02:48:47,700 you wouldn't even know that we were here 3511 02:48:54,770 --> 02:48:51,000 right it's really that simple 3512 02:48:56,950 --> 02:48:54,780 um so I I don't know but I I'm convinced 3513 02:49:00,349 --> 02:48:56,960 that things could have come and gone 3514 02:49:02,630 --> 02:49:00,359 multiple times and what would have uh 3515 02:49:07,969 --> 02:49:02,640 what would have stopped a civilization 3516 02:49:12,830 --> 02:49:07,979 well disease asteroids uh Warfare right 3517 02:49:15,190 --> 02:49:12,840 some technical catastrophe an EMP what a 3518 02:49:18,050 --> 02:49:15,200 volcanic explosion 3519 02:49:20,510 --> 02:49:18,060 multiple things could can stop a 3520 02:49:22,790 --> 02:49:20,520 civilization so 3521 02:49:26,510 --> 02:49:22,800 um that that's my take Scott so the 3522 02:49:29,690 --> 02:49:26,520 survivors of those civilizations have 3523 02:49:31,670 --> 02:49:29,700 shared knowledge and that's it I don't 3524 02:49:33,530 --> 02:49:31,680 think that's too extreme of a point of 3525 02:49:36,230 --> 02:49:33,540 view okay 3526 02:49:40,150 --> 02:49:36,240 um I'll accept that let me ask you this 3527 02:49:44,170 --> 02:49:40,160 have you heard anything about this uh 3528 02:49:47,929 --> 02:49:44,180 22 of our DNA being 3529 02:49:51,530 --> 02:49:47,939 not of this Earth yeah yeah yeah you 3530 02:49:55,610 --> 02:49:51,540 have so that number 22 3531 02:49:58,849 --> 02:49:55,620 is a very sacred number in templarism 3532 02:50:01,130 --> 02:49:58,859 in Freemasonry and you remember you 3533 02:50:03,770 --> 02:50:01,140 asked me how many hooked X's 3534 02:50:07,670 --> 02:50:03,780 we're on the Kensington Rune style yes 3535 02:50:08,570 --> 02:50:07,680 the answer is 22. right 3536 02:50:11,389 --> 02:50:08,580 thank you 3537 02:50:13,670 --> 02:50:11,399 that is the most sacred symbol to the 3538 02:50:16,309 --> 02:50:13,680 people that carved that stone 3539 02:50:19,309 --> 02:50:16,319 and they wrote it on there 22 times 3540 02:50:22,790 --> 02:50:19,319 which I and the number 22 appears in the 3541 02:50:24,590 --> 02:50:22,800 inscription eight Goss 22 northmen and 3542 02:50:27,050 --> 02:50:24,600 there are other 3543 02:50:30,110 --> 02:50:27,060 strange ruins that the scholars had 3544 02:50:32,389 --> 02:50:30,120 troubles with and those the the number 3545 02:50:34,550 --> 02:50:32,399 of those strange ruins 3546 02:50:36,250 --> 02:50:34,560 are confirmed by numbers within the 3547 02:50:38,870 --> 02:50:36,260 inscription 3548 02:50:41,809 --> 02:50:38,880 I'm 22 years old 3549 02:50:43,929 --> 02:50:41,819 so there's that too well that's you're a 3550 02:50:46,849 --> 02:50:43,939 sacred man 3551 02:50:50,510 --> 02:50:46,859 but isn't that interesting right it is 3552 02:50:53,630 --> 02:50:50,520 interesting is there you know the I call 3553 02:50:58,070 --> 02:50:53,640 it the confirmation code you know 8G 3554 02:50:59,990 --> 02:50:58,080 ruins 10 WV ruins which the scholars 3555 02:51:00,770 --> 02:51:00,000 never saw before that had the dot in the 3556 02:51:05,690 --> 02:51:00,780 upper 3557 02:51:07,610 --> 02:51:05,700 left uh Fork uh 14 individual numbers 14 3558 02:51:10,670 --> 02:51:07,620 days journey from this island and then 3559 02:51:12,349 --> 02:51:10,680 22 hook dexes which they had never seen 3560 02:51:16,490 --> 02:51:12,359 before and was one of the problems they 3561 02:51:18,349 --> 02:51:16,500 had it's being used for the letter A 3562 02:51:21,410 --> 02:51:18,359 um but if you take a look at the Hebrew 3563 02:51:23,809 --> 02:51:21,420 alphabet you look at the aleph which is 3564 02:51:25,969 --> 02:51:23,819 the equivalent of a in the Hebrew 3565 02:51:29,270 --> 02:51:25,979 alphabet the first letter 3566 02:51:31,910 --> 02:51:29,280 uh it looks like a hooked X so is there 3567 02:51:34,849 --> 02:51:31,920 a connection there there's all kinds of 3568 02:51:38,030 --> 02:51:34,859 strange things that connect here and I 3569 02:51:40,250 --> 02:51:38,040 think that you can look at some of these 3570 02:51:42,830 --> 02:51:40,260 things that are actually encrypted 3571 02:51:45,230 --> 02:51:42,840 within the runestone and I think it's 3572 02:51:48,710 --> 02:51:45,240 telling it might be might be telling us 3573 02:51:52,670 --> 02:51:48,720 something about history going back much 3574 02:51:54,889 --> 02:51:52,680 further possibly even back to uh these 3575 02:51:58,670 --> 02:51:54,899 these people that you talked about the 3576 02:52:01,790 --> 02:51:58,680 atlanteans maybe yeah yeah yeah you know 3577 02:52:03,590 --> 02:52:01,800 we you can use the word Atlantean we 3578 02:52:08,330 --> 02:52:03,600 don't have the right word in our 3579 02:52:10,849 --> 02:52:08,340 vocabulary uh to apply to this uh yet 3580 02:52:14,330 --> 02:52:10,859 it's too far out there and nobody really 3581 02:52:16,010 --> 02:52:14,340 wants to accept it yeah something Scott 3582 02:52:19,429 --> 02:52:16,020 something is going to blow this out of 3583 02:52:21,349 --> 02:52:19,439 the water there's gonna be something and 3584 02:52:24,710 --> 02:52:21,359 and here's a what do you think that's 3585 02:52:26,690 --> 02:52:24,720 going to be if Gobekli Tepe wasn't 3586 02:52:28,730 --> 02:52:26,700 enough to tit this whole thing over 3587 02:52:31,910 --> 02:52:28,740 what's it going to take what do you 3588 02:52:35,269 --> 02:52:31,920 think will uh blow this up 3589 02:52:38,349 --> 02:52:35,279 well I just think we well I mean 3590 02:52:40,969 --> 02:52:38,359 personally I think 3591 02:52:43,130 --> 02:52:40,979 I think what's going to blow it up is 3592 02:52:46,090 --> 02:52:43,140 when they finally 3593 02:52:48,950 --> 02:52:46,100 reveal the truth about this whole UAP 3594 02:52:52,429 --> 02:52:48,960 extraterrestrial phenomena that's out 3595 02:52:54,830 --> 02:52:52,439 there I mean I I you know it's funny I I 3596 02:52:57,530 --> 02:52:54,840 I I don't know how long I've been on 3597 02:52:59,389 --> 02:52:57,540 Twitter but I'm actually thinking about 3598 02:53:01,250 --> 02:52:59,399 getting rid of it now now that it's 3599 02:53:04,730 --> 02:53:01,260 taken over by our 3600 02:53:05,690 --> 02:53:04,740 a a nut job in my opinion but 3601 02:53:09,230 --> 02:53:05,700 um 3602 02:53:12,730 --> 02:53:09,240 uh I I just think that you know I when I 3603 02:53:16,010 --> 02:53:12,740 first got on Twitter I never ever saw 3604 02:53:20,690 --> 02:53:16,020 uap's disclosure 3605 02:53:23,809 --> 02:53:20,700 um anything to do with the UFO phenomena 3606 02:53:26,750 --> 02:53:23,819 and now I I can't scroll through my 3607 02:53:32,630 --> 02:53:26,760 thread and not see something right um I 3608 02:53:35,389 --> 02:53:32,640 I was I was just uh walking walking in a 3609 02:53:39,050 --> 02:53:35,399 public place I saw three people with 3610 02:53:41,809 --> 02:53:39,060 tattoos that had some type of UFO on it 3611 02:53:44,570 --> 02:53:41,819 or uh somebody being drawn up in a UFO 3612 02:53:45,469 --> 02:53:44,580 or something related to that we have 3613 02:53:50,929 --> 02:53:45,479 been 3614 02:53:52,429 --> 02:53:50,939 prepared through the media by our 3615 02:53:54,230 --> 02:53:52,439 government and who knows what other 3616 02:53:55,550 --> 02:53:54,240 entities 3617 02:53:57,730 --> 02:53:55,560 um 3618 02:54:01,429 --> 02:53:57,740 for some big announcement for something 3619 02:54:02,929 --> 02:54:01,439 some realization to happen so if you're 3620 02:54:06,469 --> 02:54:02,939 talking about what is it going to take 3621 02:54:07,849 --> 02:54:06,479 what is going to be the next big thing 3622 02:54:10,490 --> 02:54:07,859 um I think that's what it's going to be 3623 02:54:12,530 --> 02:54:10,500 I think it's it's it's no longer going 3624 02:54:14,510 --> 02:54:12,540 to be a secret I think we've been 3625 02:54:18,469 --> 02:54:14,520 prepared 3626 02:54:21,590 --> 02:54:18,479 for some type of reality that has always 3627 02:54:23,750 --> 02:54:21,600 been there that we now are going to it's 3628 02:54:26,090 --> 02:54:23,760 it's it's going to be 3629 02:54:28,070 --> 02:54:26,100 it's just going to be the the way it is 3630 02:54:30,110 --> 02:54:28,080 and I think something big is going to 3631 02:54:34,429 --> 02:54:30,120 happen in that regard that's my opinion 3632 02:54:37,070 --> 02:54:34,439 what do you think yeah it it only it's 3633 02:54:39,410 --> 02:54:37,080 only going to take one thing 3634 02:54:40,969 --> 02:54:39,420 right whether it is something about lost 3635 02:54:42,349 --> 02:54:40,979 history 3636 02:54:45,530 --> 02:54:42,359 um whether it's something biblical 3637 02:54:49,010 --> 02:54:45,540 whether it's ET but one thing that we 3638 02:54:51,349 --> 02:54:49,020 have been fundamentally lied to if that 3639 02:54:53,750 --> 02:54:51,359 cat gets released right that cat gets 3640 02:54:56,990 --> 02:54:53,760 out of the bag that that's off the table 3641 02:55:00,290 --> 02:54:57,000 and it could be E.T it could be Atlantis 3642 02:55:03,530 --> 02:55:00,300 it could be right it could be any one of 3643 02:55:05,330 --> 02:55:03,540 these things will just that's it you 3644 02:55:07,550 --> 02:55:05,340 know I think that uh most of the world 3645 02:55:09,769 --> 02:55:07,560 is is when I say most of the world I 3646 02:55:12,469 --> 02:55:09,779 mean this is starting to question what 3647 02:55:14,389 --> 02:55:12,479 they've been taught yeah I don't care 3648 02:55:18,290 --> 02:55:14,399 what what country you're from whether 3649 02:55:20,809 --> 02:55:18,300 it's it's China I mean can you imagine 3650 02:55:24,230 --> 02:55:20,819 um uh you know uh you know the story you 3651 02:55:26,330 --> 02:55:24,240 know uh Plato's Cave right okay so when 3652 02:55:27,889 --> 02:55:26,340 you know 3653 02:55:30,469 --> 02:55:27,899 just imagine 3654 02:55:33,650 --> 02:55:30,479 where you're a citizen of North Korea 3655 02:55:35,630 --> 02:55:33,660 and you are told about the rest of the 3656 02:55:38,090 --> 02:55:35,640 world and then one day 3657 02:55:40,490 --> 02:55:38,100 you go out and you see that the rest of 3658 02:55:42,309 --> 02:55:40,500 the world is not what you've been told 3659 02:55:46,910 --> 02:55:42,319 what kind of 3660 02:55:48,349 --> 02:55:46,920 mind screwing is is that going to do 3661 02:55:54,050 --> 02:55:48,359 what 3662 02:55:59,570 --> 02:55:57,110 working on with this whole Templars and 3663 02:56:01,730 --> 02:55:59,580 these mysterious artifacts and you know 3664 02:56:04,190 --> 02:56:01,740 the native angle and and they were 3665 02:56:05,389 --> 02:56:04,200 guarding the treasures and the founding 3666 02:56:09,590 --> 02:56:05,399 fathers 3667 02:56:12,349 --> 02:56:09,600 use that to to create this 3668 02:56:14,230 --> 02:56:12,359 um this Republic that we have 3669 02:56:18,710 --> 02:56:14,240 um 3670 02:56:22,269 --> 02:56:18,720 it's it's in peril well that's my point 3671 02:56:25,429 --> 02:56:22,279 Scott it's only going to take one thing 3672 02:56:28,070 --> 02:56:25,439 right if your efforts 3673 02:56:30,469 --> 02:56:28,080 um with you know it's maps and artifacts 3674 02:56:33,889 --> 02:56:30,479 and locations and things 3675 02:56:35,870 --> 02:56:33,899 um uh just like Timothy uh Hogan uh has 3676 02:56:37,969 --> 02:56:35,880 been talking about too as well if this 3677 02:56:40,010 --> 02:56:37,979 if that happens that's that's what I'm 3678 02:56:42,710 --> 02:56:40,020 talking about it's going to happen 3679 02:56:45,530 --> 02:56:42,720 that's going to happen we are going to 3680 02:56:47,330 --> 02:56:45,540 get this information out make no mistake 3681 02:56:49,550 --> 02:56:47,340 about it now how big of an impact it's 3682 02:56:51,050 --> 02:56:49,560 going to have on the world you know I I 3683 02:56:54,050 --> 02:56:51,060 didn't think about it until you just 3684 02:56:56,450 --> 02:56:54,060 said it just now I you know 3685 02:56:59,750 --> 02:56:56,460 for me I want to get this information 3686 02:57:01,969 --> 02:56:59,760 out so people understand what really 3687 02:57:04,070 --> 02:57:01,979 happened and so that they appreciate 3688 02:57:07,010 --> 02:57:04,080 this nation that we live in I was 3689 02:57:09,469 --> 02:57:07,020 recently in Philadelphia okay 3690 02:57:11,510 --> 02:57:09,479 and 3691 02:57:13,910 --> 02:57:11,520 I I went to the National Park Service 3692 02:57:16,309 --> 02:57:13,920 you know you visit the Liberty Bell and 3693 02:57:17,870 --> 02:57:16,319 and you hear about all our founding 3694 02:57:20,150 --> 02:57:17,880 fathers who did all this stuff that 3695 02:57:22,010 --> 02:57:20,160 helped you know get this whole thing 3696 02:57:24,469 --> 02:57:22,020 going that led to the revolution that 3697 02:57:28,550 --> 02:57:24,479 led to our country the thing that 3698 02:57:30,889 --> 02:57:28,560 astounded me is nowhere in any of those 3699 02:57:33,769 --> 02:57:30,899 exhibits nowhere in the people that 3700 02:57:36,050 --> 02:57:33,779 expounded on their their knowledge about 3701 02:57:38,990 --> 02:57:36,060 whatever they were talking about never 3702 02:57:44,030 --> 02:57:39,000 once did I hear the word Freemason or 3703 02:57:45,550 --> 02:57:44,040 Freemasonry right and make no mistake 3704 02:57:49,010 --> 02:57:45,560 okay 3705 02:57:52,790 --> 02:57:49,020 53 of the 56 signers of the Declaration 3706 02:57:55,670 --> 02:57:52,800 were Master Masons our country was 3707 02:57:58,969 --> 02:57:55,680 founded on the tenants of Freemasonry 3708 02:58:01,429 --> 02:57:58,979 why is it that they don't talk about it 3709 02:58:02,870 --> 02:58:01,439 why don't they talk about it and with 3710 02:58:05,150 --> 02:58:02,880 all the discussion that's happening 3711 02:58:06,349 --> 02:58:05,160 right now with all this craziness in our 3712 02:58:09,590 --> 02:58:06,359 country 3713 02:58:11,450 --> 02:58:09,600 that you know people talking about the 3714 02:58:14,389 --> 02:58:11,460 Constitution and our founding fathers 3715 02:58:16,730 --> 02:58:14,399 where is the Brotherhood to help people 3716 02:58:18,950 --> 02:58:16,740 understand what the hell happened to me 3717 02:58:21,590 --> 02:58:18,960 it's mystifying 3718 02:58:23,389 --> 02:58:21,600 the truth about our country is is just 3719 02:58:25,610 --> 02:58:23,399 been pushed into the shadows and it 3720 02:58:27,110 --> 02:58:25,620 needs that's that's why we're doing what 3721 02:58:29,030 --> 02:58:27,120 we're doing Jim that's why we're going 3722 02:58:31,910 --> 02:58:29,040 to bring the truth out 3723 02:58:33,530 --> 02:58:31,920 and like it or not this is what it's all 3724 02:58:35,450 --> 02:58:33,540 about and we got to get this ship going 3725 02:58:36,349 --> 02:58:35,460 in the right direction or we're in big 3726 02:58:38,570 --> 02:58:36,359 trouble 3727 02:58:41,630 --> 02:58:38,580 thank you so much Scott give my best to 3728 02:58:44,510 --> 02:58:41,640 Janet uh just another great unbelievably 3729 02:58:46,250 --> 02:58:44,520 cool uh conversation tonight thank you 3730 02:58:48,050 --> 02:58:46,260 for your friendship and all of your help 3731 02:58:50,510 --> 02:58:48,060 over the years my man thank you so much 3732 02:58:53,630 --> 02:58:50,520 hey Jimmy listen this is a celebration 3733 02:58:56,389 --> 02:58:53,640 for you pal you work damn hard six years 3734 02:58:59,990 --> 02:58:56,399 to get this show to happen I was honored 3735 02:59:01,730 --> 02:59:00,000 to be you know in the first season and 3736 02:59:03,650 --> 02:59:01,740 uh I wish you all the luck in the world 3737 02:59:05,690 --> 02:59:03,660 and uh let me know when you need me 3738 02:59:07,250 --> 02:59:05,700 again I'll be out there and we'll get it 3739 02:59:10,730 --> 02:59:07,260 we'll get it on 3740 02:59:12,349 --> 02:59:10,740 season two my brother all right give my 3741 02:59:14,510 --> 02:59:12,359 best to Janet man thank you all right 3742 02:59:16,790 --> 02:59:14,520 Jimmy have a good night man thank you 3743 02:59:19,670 --> 02:59:16,800 for having me you too Scott thank you so 3744 02:59:22,670 --> 02:59:19,680 much all right brother Scott Walter and 3745 02:59:25,670 --> 02:59:22,680 we just won bumper to bumper pull the 3746 02:59:28,610 --> 02:59:25,680 pole tonight with Scott Walter perfect 3747 02:59:31,070 --> 02:59:28,620 conversation all right everybody the 3748 02:59:33,349 --> 02:59:31,080 link is below 3749 02:59:36,469 --> 02:59:33,359 it's really that simple into the Vortex 3750 02:59:38,090 --> 02:59:36,479 did Premiere today Fade to Black is 3751 02:59:39,769 --> 02:59:38,100 produced by Hilton J Palm Renee Dennis 3752 02:59:42,590 --> 02:59:39,779 and Kevin announces our Steve Hart of 3753 02:59:44,870 --> 02:59:42,600 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